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Theodoric
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Message 1216 of 1639 (780076)
03-10-2016 6:22 PM
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03-10-2016 6:10 PM


Re: The real unemployment rate
If you include retirees, stay at home parents and students it is even higher.
I think you and he are confusing unemployment with labor force particpation rate.
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The cumulative effect of all these people aging out of the work force is to lower the participation rate. The CBO says that roughly half of the three-percentage-point decline in labor-force participation since the end of 2007 is due to the aging of the workforce.
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So if half the fall in labor-force participation since the recession is demographic, what about the other half? Well, one percentage point of the decline is related to temporary factors related to the business cycle, the CBO says. That leaves half a percentage point to account for.
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Now, even if the US economy continues improvingas most expectit doesn’t mean that labor-force participation will rebound. Rather, it’s likely to keep declining for at least the next 10 years, as the baby-boomers continue to age out of the workforce. (CBO estimates that labor force participation will be at 60.8% in 2024.)
The chart Obama-haters love mostand the truth behind it Quartz
The article is over a year old, but it is a good overview of the issue. Also, it does refer to original source material that is backed up with hard data.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 1217 of 1639 (780078)
03-10-2016 7:46 PM
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03-10-2016 6:10 PM


Re: The real unemployment rate
Yeah. Such as the retired, disabled, and students. A significant number of people have dropped out of looking for work but nowhere near that number. As of now that's about 600,000. http://tinyurl.com/z38qq6m.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1218 of 1639 (780079)
03-10-2016 8:13 PM


Trump Builds The Wall
Not sure how to embed it, but see here.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Theodoric
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Message 1219 of 1639 (780080)
03-10-2016 8:20 PM
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03-10-2016 8:13 PM


Re: Trump Builds The Wall
Here is the youtube link.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 1220 of 1639 (780081)
03-10-2016 8:30 PM
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03-10-2016 8:20 PM


Re: Trump Builds The Wall
Thank you.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1221 of 1639 (780131)
03-11-2016 11:30 AM


The Two Donald Trumps
So, Carson has endorsed Trump. With his eyes shut, as usual.
He explained: "There are two different Donald Trumps. There's the one you see on the stage and there's the one who is very cerebral, sits there and considers things very carefully. You can have a very good conversation with him. That's the Donald Trump that you're going to start seeing more and more of."
Trump had two things to say about that:
(1) "I probably do agree. There's the public version it seems to have worked over my lifetime. I think it's different than the personal one."
(2) "I don't think there are two Donald Trumps. I think there's one Donald Trump."
Actually, there might be more than two Donald Trumps, there could be half-a-dozen, but some of them agree with one another so you can't tell.

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Message 1222 of 1639 (780133)
03-11-2016 11:35 AM
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03-11-2016 11:30 AM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
He explained: "There are two different Donald Trumps. There's the one you see on the stage and there's the one who is very cerebral, sits there and considers things very carefully. You can have a very good conversation with him. That's the Donald Trump that you're going to start seeing more and more of."
That's true of many politicians. There's the one who does what he has to do to get elected and the one who does the job he was elected to do.
Maybe Trump won't be as big a fool in office as he is on the campaign trail.

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Message 1223 of 1639 (780156)
03-11-2016 1:10 PM
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03-11-2016 11:35 AM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
Maybe he'll be worse. He's never held office, so all we really know about him is that he's good at bankrupting companies.

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Theodoric
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Message 1224 of 1639 (780157)
03-11-2016 1:36 PM
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03-11-2016 1:10 PM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
and lying

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 1225 of 1639 (780158)
03-11-2016 2:05 PM
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03-11-2016 1:10 PM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
Maybe he'll be worse. He's never held office, so all we really know about him is that he's good at bankrupting companies.
No, we also know he is very good at protecting his own ass while he bankrupts companies.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 1226 of 1639 (780160)
03-11-2016 2:38 PM
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03-11-2016 1:36 PM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
And adultery!

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Theodoric
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Message 1227 of 1639 (780161)
03-11-2016 2:45 PM
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03-11-2016 2:38 PM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
Well he wasn't real good at it seeing as he got caught.
Edited by Theodoric, : who typed that first response? This one makes sense. I think.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 1228 of 1639 (780162)
03-11-2016 3:05 PM
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03-11-2016 2:45 PM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
Well he wasn't real good at it seeing as he got caught.
Well, when you are a loudmouth blowhard who boasts about your infidelity getting caught doesn't seem to be an issue. We are talking about a guy who wants to bang his daughter.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1229 of 1639 (780163)
03-11-2016 3:24 PM
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03-11-2016 2:45 PM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps
Well he wasn't real good at it seeing as he got caught.
This from the guy who said Trump was good at lying.

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Message 1230 of 1639 (780165)
03-11-2016 6:19 PM
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03-11-2016 11:30 AM


Re: The Two Donald Trumps

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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