Selfish gene - neodarwinian mysticism?

Hi Admin,Perhaps you could propose how to improve my OP. Please see my previous post to Adminnosy.I criticised mainly these words written by professor Richard Dawkins:

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However, as we shall see, there are special circumstances in which a gene can achieve its own selfish goals best by fostering a limited form of altruism at the level of individual animals.

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It was my main point, not "gene's-eye view of nature". I underestand very well it is a metaphore.My point is genes are dead matter and attribute them "selfishness" or considering animal bodies as their "vehicles" is something that should be open at least for free discussion. I consider the whole concept as misleading.fyi:I opened the same thread with the same OP at richarddawkins.net and preliminary there is a discussion without any problems. No one admin entered there only to call my OP as "foolish".http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=41492Anyway I would appreciate also discussion at EvC forum because views and explanation of some people here are worth to know.

You got the same answers there that you did here. This is from the first line of the very first reply to you over at RichardDawkins.net: So when you say: All you're doing is finding an excuse, and a particularly lame one at that, for criticizing something you disagree with. I know you dislike being referred to as dumb and foolish, but if you're going to persist for post after post with a dumb argument whose dumbness has been explained clearly several different ways at at least two different websites, then I'm sorry, but I lack the tact and subtlety to deal with you in a more positive manner. At some point one has to stop the coddling and just say, "Hey, you're being an idiot," which is what AdminNosy was already doing, and now your persistence in this idiocy is forcing me to join him. Cut it out and get a clue!You should be directing your energies at finding something to criticize in the science rather than in the use of metaphor. This is a science site, not a remedial English class.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

I didn't insist my thread should have been opened at "Biological evolution". You could have opened it at "cofee house" or whatever stupid areas you have here.I understand you and AdminNosy are devotee of bizzare idiotism of "selfish gene" and you do not allow discussing it.Let me say goodby to you using this utterly curious english metaphore written by professor Richard Dawkins Selfish gene, chapter 4:

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Genes are competing directly with their alleles for survival, since their alleles in the gene pool are rivals for their slot on the chromosomes of future generations. Any gene that behaves in such a way as to increase its own survival chances in the gene pool at the expense of its alleles will, by definition, tautologously, tend to survive. The gene is the basic unit of selfishness.

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Uf, that's something I call a science.

If the topic is Dawkins' selfish gene ideas, then the correct forum is [forum=-5], not [forum=-14].If you'd like to discuss interpretation of metaphor, then anyone can open a thread in the [forum=-14]. Coffee house threads do not have to be proposed.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director