Kingdom on Earth (Re: Barack Obama comments)

Nator, I know about Muslim doctrine as per the Koran, Haddith and the Sunnahs and about what Muslim leaders have practiced and proclamated over the centuries right up to the present. I have books on this, by Islamist sources as well as others. I've listened to converted Muslims tell their story. I have the Koran and have a good handle on what it teaches.Imo, the risk the US might take electing a gifted and intelligent son of a foreign Muslim and taught three years during the impressionable years of childhood in a Wahhabe school is risky.The Islamist bible, the Koran written by the Islamist prophet, Mohammed charges all Muslims to subjugate the planet under Allah/Islam. This is alarming to me in light of the statement of Obama relative to a kingdom on earth. Was Obama's statement a sublimal message to the leaders of Islam, perhaps some who may be conspiring to plant a Muslim conspiritor in the higest position possible in the American government? I don't know, but the risk here???? ABE: (embolding mine)NameBright - Coming SoonWe just don't know. Perhaps there's nothing here pertaining to the candidate, Obama. I hope not, but given there is above a written conspiracy to subjugate the world under Islam by violence America would be prudent to be aware of the danger of such a thing. Remember 9/11. Billions of Saudi oil money is going to building mosques in America. Are these mosques trojan horses for Islamic takeover of America? WAKE UP, AMERICA AND BE VIGILANT! Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

---

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Hi SH. Btw, I appreciate the thoughtful, forthright and interesting contribution of yours to EvC!To answer your question, yes they do, but relatively few break from Islam due to the persecution and threats, including death, etc as prescribed by Mohammed and Islamic leaders, especially in fundi nations.Indonesia being the largest Muslim nation in the world, I'm puzzled as to why the transition was without incident and why this is so quiet relative to this notable candidate around the Islamic world today.

---

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Thanks, and I like you to Buz. Well that is an interesting point. Then again people still do, just as people broke away despite the inquisition. Maybe he's one of those, though I think his situation might be different.I had friends who were islamic and broke with it. Their families tended to be more moderate. Such people do exist, even in very militant fundie societies. Well likely anyone that would blast him, would think it's sort of redundant. Aren't ALL of the candidates enemies of their religion? Why would they waste time discussing his particulars?Perhaps once he's in office they might decry it.

---

h
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." - Robert E. Howard

As I pointed out earlier, it's even more likely that never attended a madrassa.

---

If it's truly good and powerful, it deserves to engender a thousand misunderstandings. -- Ben Ratcliffe

While it really looks like the claim that Obama attended a Madrasah is just another right wing smear attack, even if it were true, what would be the problem?Even if Obama was a Muslim, what would be the problem with that?

---

Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

Well according to buz the evil Muslims are in a global conspiracy to < the brain > TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD
! < /the brain >.

---

Live every week like it's Shark Week!
Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

Well, assume for a second Buz is right and Islam does want to become the world's religion?So what?Why is that a problem?

---

Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

Look. Buz. Let's not play dueling bibles, kay? There's more where that came from.

Who knows? You'd think the alleged all-powerful god of buz's religion would be able to prevent that from happening if it wanted to, but apparently it's too powerless.

---

Live every week like it's Shark Week!
Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

Really? When did you learn arabic?

---

Live every week like it's Shark Week!
Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

Thanks, MBG--another post I don't have to make.The "peoples of the book" (which I gather now includes Mormons as well as Jews, Christians and Muslims) could wave their bloody hands at each other darn near forever without running out of murderous quote accusations.But it's all blood.Something went horribly wrong in the desert millennia ago.Give me that old-time rain forest polytheistic matrilineal mythos.

---

Real things always push back.
-William James Save lives! Click here!
Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC!
---------------------------------------

Buz is here to do what God would do if He were in possession of all the facts.

---

Real things always push back.
-William James Save lives! Click here!
Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC!
---------------------------------------

According to Obama in the article Chiroptera cited in Message 214, he spent two years at a Muslim school and two years at a Catholic school while in Indonesia.Which one do you consider the greater evil?

---

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

I know I'm not the only one concerned and Andy Martin whoever evidently had some reasonable concerns whatever they were. The appathy, lack of vigilance and gullibility of Americans is what concerns me most. We ignore the enemy's warnings, pshaw the advance of militant Islam, we're appathetic to the brutality and persecution on others, glibly thinking it'l never happen to us. Last century the appathetic Europeans lost scores of millions of their countrymen and suffered severely via lack of vigilance. Like before Pearl Harbor, we ignore the threat.

---

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I've been looking for where Silent H and I and others already looked at these verses in context -- we pretty much tore this one to pieces. But I couldn't the thread. Maybe someone else can dredge it up.On a lighter note, I found CanadianSteve's first appearance here. Ah, I have fond memories of that thread -- I see how far my argumentation skills have fallen since then.

---

If it's truly good and powerful, it deserves to engender a thousand misunderstandings. -- Ben Ratcliffe