Who can explain following:

We have a person with a chemical imbalance in his brain that causes, say, bipolar illness. According to you, the source of such trouble is sin. As soon as the person accepts Jesus as his personal savior and allows the Holy Spirit to renew his mind, we can expect the chemical imbalance to disappear. His bipolar disorder, in time, will be cured.If his condition does not eventually improve we should conclude, you say, that the person is not allowing the Holy Spirit to continue the inner work of restoration. An ongoing mental health problem in a 'reborn' person indicates moral weakness.Two questions.1. Is it OK for the Spirit-enabled restoration of a person's mental health if the person consults a physician? Or would that be one sign of moral failure? Would seeing a doctor indicate the person doesn't trust the Spirit enough?2. How are other chemical imbalances affected, such as diabetes? Should we expect a person with diabetes to gradually conquer her condition once she accepts Jesus as her savior and welcomes the Holy Spirit into her life? If her condition does not improve, are we likewise to conclude that some moral failing on her part has impeded the work of the Spirit? And how about physicians in her case? After a diabetic is reborn, should she continue to see her doctor? Or is that one sign of moral weakness?If it turns out that the two disorders are not morally the same in your view, I would be interested in knowing why not.___Edited by Archer Opterix, : clarity.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

I don't think that such a teaching could be derived from the New Testament. And I don't believe that that is necessarily what will always occur.Eventually that person will be totally healed. But it is the case that God leaves some conditions with us in order to cause us to be depend on Him. In this dependence He can wrought more of His nature into our personality.Paul was left with a discharge of some type from his eyes. He did not always perform miraculous healings on his co-workers. He left one sick in a city who could no longer accompany him because of an illness. He also advized Timothy to take a curing way of wine for his stomach ailments. We see him also exhorting the church to care for those who were of a feeble soul.So I won't let you try to push my faith into a erroneous position that no trace of the damage of sin or the fall can be left in a person who turns to Christ in the church age. Not necessarily. I already provided evidence that the Apostle Paul refered Timothy to a natural way of healing.By the way the writer of the gospel of Luke and the book of Acts was a physician of that day. The Holy Spirit may in fact lead a person to see a physician.A Christian may seek professional medical help.And still we need the renewing of the mind through the Holy Spirit. God is a living Person. We may want to think of God as rigid program which will always act in a particular way. But the fact of the matter is as a parent deals with his children differently on some matters, so does God His reborn children.You may rest assured that by the time of the eternal age no trace of the damage of sin remains in any of His regenerated children.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

When I first turned to Christ I did so in order to receive help from a problem. My expectation was that my problem would be solved quickly, God would then go away, and I could continue living my life my own way.Of course I didn't want Jesus to go too far away. I might need Him again. To my surprise I eventually got the clue that He did not come into my life just to fix my problem and turn me loose again.So some life long situations may cause a believer to live a life of having to moment by moment trust the Lord Jesus.I have seen with some physical discomforts and some mental states that very strong believers live a life of walking moment by moment with Christ. Christ Himself is their comfort and their well being.Natural life would want all problems fixed so that we could then go on back to our self centered lives apart from God. So we should not always expect that He will take your troubles away.It is like floating down a river and being stopped by a rock in the middle of the stream. The natural reaction may be to ask God to remove the rock. His way often is to raise the level of the stream so as to float over the rock.There are of course Christians who wrestle with depression or bipolar disorder. I know some very mature ones. And they learn to live from moment to moment in the strength which God supplies. His grace is sufficient for them. And they function by His grace in their state.Of course one day the thorn will be removed completely. But in that day the mind, emotion, will, and conscience will have been saturated with the Holy Spirit through perhaps a life of dependency on Christ in some difficult mental state.

It is interesting to me that God used a medical doctor to write one of the gospels, the gospel of Luke. He also wrote Acts.Had God had a basic contraversy with people who devoted their lives to natural methods of healing, I don't think He would have intrusted one to record the teachings and acts of the Son of God.I think one poster here is attempting to manuevor me into a position basically hostile to medical healing. Maybe he could take that argument to some extreme sect of poison snake handlers of hyper Pentecostal types who are more like the Christian Science sect who teach against seeking medical healing.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Re:It is a fact that there are the 32 similarities in Ezekiel Code with DNA molecule. I believe it indeed is a miracle, but surprise. Since DNA is the blueprint and core materiel of human living body, Bible description of DNA is reasonable.After saw the “four living creatures” or “DNA molecule”, God told Ezekiel: “Not to many people of a strange speech and of an hard language, whose words thou canst not understand. Surely, had I sent thee to them, they would have hearkened unto thee.” (KJV, Ezekiel 3:6).In the description, there were tow groups of people, group of who “is not willing to listen to”, another group of who “would have listened to” and have “difficult language”. I believed the “difficult language” implied “series of biological knowledge, terminological words and insight ability”. Only the people who possess the “difficult language” can understand the truth in the Ezekiel’s Vision. The “many peoples of obscure speech and difficult language” are the residents they are living in 21st century.

I have written a work on this topic and I'll be happy to send it to you if you write and ask me for it. No, its not the typical evolutionary-polytheistic/pantheistic explanation which violates the law of identity. My research on this topic left monotheism in tact and commited no heresy and thoroughly refuted evolution by solving the UFO-Alien mystery. In fact, I believe this research is extremely important and encourage you and everyone who truly want to see the truth of why the Bible is Holy to e-mail me.I've read some of the replies to your topic and am not surprised at some of the rude and ignorant responses. I was banned from two atheistic forums because I quoted from Ezekiel and explained the passages from both a theological and scientific perspective. Occam's Razer is also a nice tool for analysis.Again, this paper is not some modern hoax. In fact, the last section refutes the Dropa hoax and kills it dead, so please don't confuse me with some wild propagandists. I am honest in research and hide nothing. I do not belong to an Institution so I have not signed a priori commitment to ideological philosophy. This means that I can search and resolve without censorship!!Think about. There are a few valid UFO-sightings that need to be interpretated. Theres ancient art that depicts what we called flying saucers today. So what and who are these UFOs/Aliens? Does the evidence support evolution or does it support the Holy Bible? I feel that my research has solved this. Actually, The knowledge in my paper is how Judaism and Christianity was originally understood in the anxcient times.By the way. This is my first post and I'd just like to say hello to all. I'm a Christian and study and experience the topic of origins. I'm a collector of historical documents from ancient countries like Babylonia, Egypt, Israel, and collect as many early Christian writings as I can.I hope this forum is respectful because I have not found a single forum that allows objective discussion in the subject of origins.

Thank you for the explanation. I know of at least one other person who has discribed the vision of Ezekiel in terms which he feels sheds light on atomic physics.Because I believe that God is the designer of life we see order and intelligence reflected in His creation. And still more is there to discover.My first approach would be to prayerfully use the Bible to interpret the visions of the Bible.But thanks for your brief explanation of your study.