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Author | Topic: Why complex form requires an Intelligent Designer | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Jon Inactive Member |
This paper is for all of those people that have looked at the structure exhibited by life and thought it was beyond the possibility of evolutions mechanism to acheive. So, this paper is only directed at those who already have a presupposition to believe what you're writing? In that case, I won't waste my time. J0N Edited by Jon, : misplaced quote
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Yeah - and you'll notice he is pretty scarce over there...
Probably licking his wounds at ISCID with some like-minded anti-reality types... like Peter Borger...
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
KBC:
quote: Perhaps it would make this discussion more reasonable if the engineer anti-evolution types would finally realize that DNA does not work exactly like computer code does... I know, that is a stretch, but it would rezally make thier claims a little less.... Silly and irrelevant.
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Don't mean to pile on, but I just came across this post from KBC on another forum.
He approvingly cites the 'bombadier beetle' argument, for crying out loud! Take home message - be very wary of folks arguing against evolution who claim not to be creationists...
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Doddy Member (Idle past 5931 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: |
derwood writes: He approvingly cites the 'bombadier beetle' argument, for crying out loud! Complete with the lies that: 1. A beetle would blow up if the explosion occurred in the beetle...when that's how the expulsion force is generated. 2. The two chemicals explode when mixed...when catalysts are needed to force a rapid reaction. In the lab, they just slowly oxidise and turn brown. 3. That inhibitors exist, but none have been observed. These IDist need to do their own research, instead of quoting quotes of another person's reference to Gish's own assertions, who himself poorly translated some 45 year old German papers on the beetles. "Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will." (Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.) - Arthur Schopenhauer
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
This is marginally on topic here. Please don't carry off on that tangent.
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Peter Member (Idle past 1500 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
Only skimmed through this thread so bear with me -- been off-site for quite a while and am out of practice
Am I right in thinking that the OP has suggested that ID is the ONLY possibility because there are an infinite number of possible shapes, so random mutation plus selection couldn't possibly have created (for example) a femur shaped bone? I would have thought that the more possibilites that exist, the easier it would be to hit upon a workable one by random mutation ... and then filter it for 'fit to the environment'. Especially if you have a multitude of parallel attempts. Maybe I am missing something though.
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nator Member (Idle past 2191 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I know this is an ancient thread, but I just noticed this. The reason we have two pipes is becasue this is the way we evolved to make complex speech possible. It does involve a tradeoff since it also makes us much more vulnerable to choking, but the benefits to the species in being able to communicate complex ideas, particularly to the next generation, far outweighs the higher number of choking deaths in the population. With complex speech, too, we can pass on the information needed to avoid choking in the first place.
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Don't expect any sort of rational response from KBC. He is a mechancial engineer, and a creationist - two great characteristics that make one's claims on any subject beyond reproach.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pretty broad brush there.
KBC's last post was 10-24-2006 11:37 PM and this is the ONLY thread he posted on.
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Peter Member (Idle past 1500 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
One lives in hope ....
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: The broad brush is justified in KBCs case:
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Refpunk Member (Idle past 6074 days) Posts: 60 Joined: |
God's design is inherent in every single cell and particle that scientists analyze. So scientists rely on the cause-effect workings of the very design they deny exists! So they are simply in denial of God whom they can see every single day in every particle they analyze. And they still don't understand the complete structure and complexity of the smallest particle in the universe!
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AdminWounded Inactive Member |
Hi Refpunk,
Welcome to the boards. Could you please stop dredging up old threads simply for short virtually contentless posts? It would be greatly appreciated. TTFN, AW
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waqasf  Inactive Member |
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Edited by AdminModulous, : No reason given.
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