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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You badly need to get a grip on the fact that there are two sides to every issue and yours is not the Supreme Dogma.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's the hiding behind closed doors that is the biggest problem at the moment. Finally some who are being left out of this misbegotten "inquiry" stormed the meeting, not sure what will come of that though.
Why isn't anyone from your side calling for the removal of Adam Schiff the inveterate liar who actually made up a whole tale he imputed to Trump as a direct quote? That is a vile thing to do but you all just let him get away with it. He's committed crimes that should get HIM impeached at the very least but the Left protects its own no matter how corrupt. This hidden inquiry without any declaration of impeachment is certainly suspicious. But perhaps all they are doing is continuing the usual fishing expedition since they have nothing against Trump and are still looking for some shred of information they can misread in order to create another false but public claim that they've "got 'im now." The truth I hope will come out is about the Democrats' interference in the 2016 election on behalf of Hillary, and all their crimes and misdemeanors. MAY THE WHOLE TRUTH COME OUT. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Faith writes: How very very odd then that when asked if the rule against indicting a sitting President had affected the conclusions of his investigation he denied it emphatically. Then when interviewed by Congress affirmed it but then afterward specifically denied it again. This is fictional. From the Mueller Report:
quote: From the Mueller letter to Barr:
quote: From Mueller's public statement on the Russia investigation:
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Finally some who are being left out of this misbegotten "inquiry" stormed the meeting, not sure what will come of that though.
hopefully they'll be censured for violating national security regulations, they brought unauthorized electronic devices into a SCIF. But it's not a crime if a republican does it.
Why isn't anyone from your side calling for the removal of Adam Schiff the inveterate liar who actually made up a whole tale he imputed to Trump as a direct quote?
this is a lie, he explicitly said that he was paraphrasing the phone call.
He's committed crimes that should get HIM impeached at the very least but the Left protects its own no matter how corrupt.
he's not subject to impeachment, he's a congressman.
This hidden inquiry without any declaration of impeachment is certainly suspicious.
they're gathering evidence and compiling witness testimony to determine possible articles of impeachment, nothing suspicious there.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It is a fact that Mueller denied that the rule against indicting a sitting President had in any way affected the investigation. Then affirmed it later, then denied it again.
There is another side to this story from yours and I hope it comes out. MAY ALL THE TRUTH COME OUT.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
pot, kettle, black etc.
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Faith writes: It's the hiding behind closed doors that is the biggest problem at the moment. Finally some who are being left out of this misbegotten "inquiry" stormed the meeting, not sure what will come of that though. There are both Republicans and Democrats behind those closed doors.
Why isn't anyone from your side calling for the removal of Adam Schiff the inveterate liar who actually made up a whole tale he imputed to Trump as a direct quote? It's as if you haven't followed the news and are unaware of what Schiff actually said. About the White House provided reconstructed transcript of Trump's phone conversation Schiff says this:
quote: That is a vile thing to do but you all just let him get away with it. I think you're letting Trump distract you from what's important. Parodying the president's words is neither vile nor a crime. Pressuring a foreign country to invent dirt on a political opponent is.
He's committed crimes that should get HIM impeached at the very least but the Left protects its own no matter how corrupt. I'm sure we're all in favor of punishing those who commit crimes - actual crimes, that is.
This hidden inquiry without any declaration of impeachment is certainly suspicious. By "declaration of impeachment" I assume you mean that there hasn't been a vote on initiating an impeachment inquiry, and you're saying that without that vote you find closed door inquiries suspicious. Again, there are both Republicans and Democrats behind those closed doors, and a public phase will follow once the principle witnesses have been deposed.
But perhaps all they are doing is continuing the usual fishing expedition since they have nothing against Trump and are still looking for some shred of information they can misread in order to create another false but public claim that they've "got 'im now." I think we're all hoping for is a honest inquiry into the truth.
The truth I hope will come out is about the Democrats' interference in the 2016 election on behalf of Hillary, and all their crimes and misdemeanors. If any such thing occurred then I hope that truth comes out, too.
MAY THE WHOLE TRUTH COME OUT. A lot of it is already out there. --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You believe the Leftist lies. The transcript was real and it was no "shakedown." Adam Schiff made up what was in the phone call out of his own evil head in order to do public damage to Trump. There is no talking to Leftists, you are all perniciously deluded.
MAY THE TRUTH COME OUT AND EXPOSE THESE LIARS. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, :
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Faith writes: It is a fact that Mueller denied that the rule against indicting a sitting President had in any way affected the investigation. Then affirmed it later, then denied it again. Repeating this fiction doesn't make it any less false. If it were true then you could quote Mueller saying this. What is the source of your information? Is it Mueller quotes, or is it something someone at Breitbart or Fox or likewise said?
There is another side to this story from yours and I hope it comes out. A lot of the story is already out. Just read the White House provided reconstructed transcript of Trump's phone conversation. It's all there in black and white. --Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Yesterday, there was a deposition in the impeachment proceedings.
Because it would involve classified material it was held in a secure facility before the House Intelligence Committee. Republican Representatives stormed the facility, carrying (and apparently using) mobile phones which are forbidden for security reasons.
Ars Technica Also, the White House has degraded it’s own cybersecurity capabilities and is effectively handing over responsibility to the DoD, despite warnings from the administration’s general counsel.
Ars Technica
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
And vote against election security.
The Register Rejecting the Election Security Act, the Securing America’s Federal Elections Act (SAFE) and the Honest Ads Act. Election Security is not good - and the Republicans apparently like it that way. They also love secret funding for electoral advertisements.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: It's the hiding behind closed doors that is the biggest problem at the moment. Finally some who are being left out of this misbegotten "inquiry" stormed the meeting, not sure what will come of that though. Hopefully the House will sanction the idiots who did the storming and also make it clear that there was NO hiding behind closed doors, simply the absolutely correct procedures per the House Rules. The little kiddies that stormed the meeting simply once again showed that they have absolutely no respect for the Rule of Law.
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Faith writes: You believe the Leftist lies. The transcript was real and it was no "shakedown." Adam Schiff made up what was in the phone call out of his own evil head in order to do public damage to Trump. There is no talking to Leftists, you are all perniciously deluded. Has it escaped your attention how often you have nothing of substance to offer and so drop into insult mode?
MAY THE TRUTH COME OUT AND EXPOSE THESE LIARS. Everything I've offered in recent discussion has been from quotes, transcripts and reports from people in government, like the White House transcript of the Ukraine phone call, the Schiff parody of the phone call, the whistleblower report, the Mueller report, the Mueller statement, and the Mueller letter to Barr. None of it supports anything you say. And I haven't even commented yet on the testimony before the House committees of Marie Yovanovitch (former ambassador to Ukraine removed by Trump), Bill Taylor (recently resigned ambassador to the Ukraine), Fiona Hill (former Trump aide), and Gordon Sondland (ambassador to the EU), but they all tell a fairly consistent story that under Trump's direction Giuliani coordinated a pressure campaign on the Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings and the Bidens before Trump would release the military aid allocated by Congress. At some point you have to stop merely calling people liars and say something that is actually true. --Percy
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
At some point you have to stop merely calling people liars and say something that is actually true. No she doesn't. That is how trolls work.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
ICANT writes: Percy writes: By pushing for Shokin's dismissal Biden was making it more likely that the founder of Burisma Holdings where his son sat on the board would be investigated. Isn't that the same investigation Trump is asking for? The founder of Burisma Holdings, Mykola Zlochevsky, is a Ukrainian oligarch who fled the Ukraine in 2014 and is now living in Monaco. It is alleged that he awarded gas and oil contracts to companies he owned through Burisma Holdings while he was ecology minister from 2010-2012. Shokin refused to investigate Zlochevsky. He did open an investigation into Burisma Holdings, but then he sat on it (took no action). He also turned a blind eye to other corruption in the Ukraine. Biden was part of a coordinated effort by the U.S. and countries of the EU to influence the Ukraine to fire Shokin. The final straw came when British courts were forced to return $23 million in illegal money to Ukrainian oligarchs because Shokin was refusing to provide documentation. Under Lutsenko, Shokin's successor, 15 investigations of Zlochevsky were conducted. And no, that is not the same investigation Trump is asking for. Trump is asking the Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings and the Bidens. Trump is silent as to what it is he alleges they have done, so the only conclusion is that he wants the Ukraine to go on a fishing expedition to dig up dirt on the Bidens.
It seems under Yuri Lutsenko the prosecutor general who succeeded Shokin the investigation ended with a settlement and a fine paid by one of the firm's accountants. So the results of Shokin being fired was a settlement and a fine paid by an accountant which benefited the company. Since we are still giving Ukraine a lot of money and military hardware why shouldn't that investigation be completed... You just described how that investigation had already been completed.
...rather than accepting a decision made by the person who followed Biden's having Shokin fired or the Gov. would not get the billion dollars. The Ukrainian prosecutor is no longer Lutsenko but Riaboshapka - not the same person. Back in 2015/2016 as part of the effort to pressure the Ukraine into firing Shokin, Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees from the U.S., but that's peanuts compared to the International Monetary Fund's threat to withhold $40 billion. I think we can all understand why Biden would want people to think he single-handedly arm-twisted the Ukraine into dismissing a corrupt general prosecutor as he campaigns for president, but the truth is that it was a multinational effort. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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