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lpetrich
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01-14-2004 3:31 AM


These context-unspecified quotes have been collected by Joe Meert over at the E/C forum at Internet Infidels Discussion Board
I am a young-age creationist because the Bible indicates the universe is young. Given what we currently think we understand about the world, the majority of the scientific evidence favors an old earth and universe, not a young one. I would therefore say that anyone who claims that the earth is young for scientific evidence alone is scientifically ignorant.
attributed to Kurt Wise in an email, 2003.
No, of course I haven't done lab research on the systems described in Darwin's Black Box.
an email from Michael Behe to the Baptist Board Administrator, 2003.
And one of the strongest arguments for the validity of radiometric dating is that the methods agree.
from The radiometric dating game by David Plaisted, 1998.
I had either stupidly or dishonestly reversed the time axis of the text’s figure to get my figure
from D. Russell Humphreys, The Acts of the apostates, 1998.
...various dating methods agree that the earth is 4.5 billion years old.
John Woodmorappe, Studies in creationism and flood geology ICR Impact 238.
This time represents about half the assumed ten-billion-year main-sequence lifetime of the Sun, so the Sun should have used about half its energy store. This means that about half the hydrogen in the core of the Sun has been used up and replaced by helium. This change in chemical composition changes the structure of the core. The overall structure of the Sun would have to change as well, so that today, the Sun should be nearly 40% brighter than it was 4.6 billion years ago.
Danny Faulkner, The faint young sun paradox and the age of the solar system , ICR Impact 300.
this (radioactive) decay has occurred over billions of years at constant rates
Larry Vardiman, Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth, ICR Impact 301.
Confirmation of the Mars report will demonstrate that the universe is teeming with life. That would mean that life is a product of evolution and we don't need God to explain it.
Henry Morris, WHERE HAS ALL THE WATER GONE?, ICR Impact 291.
evolution currently provides the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth, including humans
Buckna and Laidlaw, Should evolution be immune from critical analysis in the science classroom?, ICR Impact 282.
fact of speciation leads directly to the fact of macroevolution
Kenneth Cumming, Patterns of speciation, ICR Impact 215.
it is absurd to think that Adam could name all the animals in part of a single day....science requires us to believe that the days of creation week were long ages instead of literal days.
Henry Morris, Adam and the animals, ICR Impact 212.
...all living things have arisen through a naturalistic, mechanistic evolutionary process from a single source, which itself arose by a similar process from a dead, inorganic world.
Duane T. Gish, Ph.D. Creation/Evolution. ICR Impact 4.
Dinosaurs and many other animals are pre-historic. Most of the earth's history took place long before the Bible or any other book was written and long before any man existed.
It is a scientific fact that the earth is exceedingly old--perhaps 5 billion years.
Evolution is a fact. God did not create the world as portrayed in the Bible.
There once was a time when the land was inhabited only by reptiles--the Great Age of the Dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs and other animals evolved into completely different kinds of creatures. Every creature evolved from lower forms of life, even man. Man is just an animal--a highly-evolved primate.
Paul S. Taylor (1982). Dinosaur Mania And Our Children. ICR Impact 167
all living forms have arisen from a single form of life by slow gradual changes. Thus, the time between the origin of life and the abrupt appearance in the fossil record of the many complex invertebrate forms of life is now estimated to have been nearly three billion years. The time required for one of these invertebrates to evolve into the vertebrates, or fishes, has been estimated at about 100 million years, and it is believed that the evolution of the fish into an amphibian required about 30 million years.
Duane T. Gish, Ph.D. (1980). The origin of mammals. ICR Impact 87.
The flipper of the whale, the wing of the bat, the leg of the horse, and the arm of man are all structurally alike, even though they are functionally different. Evolution explains the presence of these structural similarities by pointing out that the organisms of these diverse species have an ancestor or ancestors in common from which they have descended. Over many years of descent from a common ancestry these different organisms have changed; though not enough to erase the structural similarity we still observe today. Descent, with change, from a common ancestry also accounts for the presence of vestiges in many different organisms.
Gary Colwell, Ph.D. (1996). Socrates meets Darwin: a study in question begging. Creation Research Society Quarterly 33: 127

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Quetzal
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01-14-2004 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by lpetrich
01-14-2004 3:31 AM


Woohoo, lp! Hoist by their own petard. I mean, after all, if the creationists can quote mine, why can't the evos? Kudos to Joe.

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