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Coragyps Member (Idle past 762 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I self-identify rather weakly as being from Arkansas, even though I was only there from the age of ten to about 22. I think I do that so I can tell Arkansas jokes about people being their own cousins and such. Arkansans do tend to self-identify as such, especially during football season when the Hogs are winning.
I've lived in Ohio, Oklahoma, and Texas since then and am nearly to the point that I might adopt Texas - but the politics here don't agree with me much. I suppose I think of myself as a commie pinko liberal lost here in the Bible Belt.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
How the hell is Michigan mid-WEST??? Simple. When the colonies expanded westward (a) they had no idea how big the country was, (b) a major access route was through the great lakes and then over to the Mississippi, and (c) the area beyond the settled areas was "west" and thus anything settled between the original colonies and the undeveloped "west" was in the middle. Ohio (if it really exists), Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin etc. Michigan, btw, is the state that Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox come from (some other states try to lay claim, but it's really Michigan). Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 762 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
And speaking of neighbors, look who we have to our south...Ohio... You're aware of the border war between Ohio and Michigan back in the mid-1800's? Michigan apparently won, 'cause Ohio had to take Toledo. Edited by Coragyps, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
You're aware of the border war between Ohio and Michigan back in the mid-1800's? Michigan apparently won, 'cause Ohio had to take Toledo. And for those who are really curious, Michigan is composed of five (count-em, 5) isolated peninsulas, not two. View Larger Map Enjoy by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3671 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Michigan, btw, is the state that Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox come from Ah-ha! I've always meant to look up Paul Bunyan, as all the references in KSR's Mars Trilogy (Red, Green, Blue Mars) never made any sense to me. Thanks, now I know...
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Come to Devon and the character is very clear:
Gap toothed, mumbling, limping, half wits. And in Cornwall the normal laws of physics actually break down and time slows down as you try to travel from well hiddedn town to another. Edited by Larni, : More vitriol Edited by Larni, : No reason given.
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FliesOnly Member (Idle past 4173 days) Posts: 797 From: Michigan Joined: |
Coragyps writes: Ah yes...ye ole border dispute. Ohio got to keep Toledo and we got the Upper Peninsula (and Statehood). Ha...just another example of the dearth of knowledge of Ohioans . And also likely to primary reason behind the biggest rivalry in College sports. While some may claim Duke/N Carolina...we all know that no rivalry rivals U of M versus OSU.
You're aware of the border war between Ohio and Michigan back in the mid-1800's? Michigan apparently won, 'cause Ohio had to take Toledo.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 762 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
that no rivalry rivals U of M versus OSU. Indeedy. I spent six years on the banks of the Olentangy. Some kid was arrested there on an obscenity charge because his t-shirt spelled out "F*** Michigan." The judge dismissed the case because, he said, that sentiment is perfectly compatible with "normal community standards" during the Fall in Columbus.
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
...normal laws of physics actually break down and time slows down as you try to travel from well hiddedn town to another. Ah yes, there are sections of Michigan's Upper Peninsula (the U.P.) that are like that. Long periods of time just disappear while traveling there. To answer the original question, being from the U.P. I think we identify with that name MUCH more than we ever identify as from Michigan. And likewise, I don't think much of Michigan recognizes us as a part of the state either. I remember going off to college a billion years ago, from the U.P. down to MSU (the REAL university system in Michigan). If you hold up your left hand palm out, it is basically the shape of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan, where the trolls* live. When dorm-mates talked about where in Michigan one was from, they would automatically hold up their left hand and ask "Where?" When I pointed to a spot above and to the left they would look puzzled and ask if I meant Canada. If someone from the U.P. (a Yooper) identified with any particular state, it would probably be Wisconsin rather than the rest of Michigan. * Troll, one who lives under the bridge (Mackinac Bridge, not to be confused with the Mackinaw Bridge)
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kjsimons Member Posts: 822 From: Orlando,FL Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Being a former troll (and a U of M grad) I recall there once was a state tourism campaign with a slogan of "Say Yes to Michigan!". Didn't take long before I saw a bumper sticker with "Say Ya to the UP eh!" .
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
ROFL, I had one of those
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Do people associate themselves more with a region, such as seeing themselves as a Southerner or a New Englander or is it common to identify with their state? I associate myself more with my region than my state but I think this might be due to my particular state/region combination. I'm from southern Illinois very near St. Louis, Missouri. I don't associate myself with Illinoians as much as I associate myself with the St. Louis region. Most people from Illinois are from the Chicago area and they are a lot different than us down here.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I've spoken to many Europeans who have lived in America for an extended period of time and I often hear high praise for the Pacific NorthWest. What in particular makes it a special place for you? Probably because its where I grew up, so it seems most familiar to me. The scenery is gorgeous -- still has a lot of wilderness areas left. There are both mountains and the ocean -- in fact, in Southeast Alaska the mountains come right out of the ocean:
(Thanks to imageshack for free picture hosting.) Also the politics are much more to my liking -- much more to the left than most of the rest of the US. Not so much in Alaska, but even there when I grew up the conservatism was much a more libertarian, leave other people alone, mind your own business thing than the more hateful religious right bigotry that came in during the Reagan years. In Washington and Oregon you have your rednecks and your biker gangs and your new age hippies and your high tech yuppies -- a pretty cool diversity of people, if you ask me. (I like the people here in Oklahoma and all, but everyone is so...square.) Speaking of diversity, there is also a pretty large Asian community (where I grew up, mostly Filipino), and also a lot of American Natives that have retained more of their culture than they have in other areas. Even as a kid I was always fascinated by Northwest Coast Native art (this site has a representative sample of the sort of thing I like).
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
born and raised in (southern) Illinois, have since moved to Missouri, then to (Northern) Virginia.
Missouri is my favorite so far. definately a midwesterner at heart.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4217 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
You're right in one sense. I identify more with New England than Massachusetts in most areas, possibly due to the fact I was born in Vermont.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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