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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4927 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
WASHINGTON -- CIA officials will tell Congress on Thursday that North Korea had been helping Syria build a plutonium-based nuclear reactor, a U.S. official said, a disclosure that could touch off new resistance to the administration's plan to ease sanctions on Pyongyang. The CIA officials will tell lawmakers that they believe the reactor would have been capable of producing plutonium for nuclear weapons but was destroyed before it could do so, the U.S. official said, apparently referring to a suspicious installation in Syria that was bombed last year by Israeli warplanes. CIA will tell Congress that Pyongyang was helping Damascus build a reactor last year, U.S. official says. I find it interesting that after Pelosi and other dems made such a public alliance with Assad, that Syria moved agressively to develop nuclear weapons with North Korea's help. Bush and Israel took out Syria's nuclear production facility. If a dem were president, one wonders if that wouldn't have happened, and we might be faced with a nuclear armed Syria facing off against a nuclear armed Israel. Vote dem.....for peace...
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4143 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Page not found – Foreign Policy
There are some problems with both sides of the story. My absolute first reaction, after spending many long hours studying nuclear policy and the technical aspects was to determine exactly what type of reactor it was. Read the link.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
The operable factor is, Palosi's resume against terrorism is:
'BLANK'. I find this the case with most of the Dems - the reason I would'nt vote for them anymore - even if I liked all their otherwise other policies. I'd vote Bush again, even knowing and agreeing he did it all wrong, because there is none else even addressing the issue.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4143 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
You know that terrorism can be dealt with in a non-military way yes?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Yes, and this is the best and most preferable way. But this has not worked, and its not because of some reasonable grievience not addressed. There was no way around Sadaam than military, despite 17 UN Resolutions and every compromise possible; same as was the case with W.W.11 Germany, and possibly today's Iran.
The war with Sadaam unearthed 700,000 Iraqi corpses, and WMD gassings of the kurds - yet Europe and the other M/E states did nothing. There is no negotiations possible with such regimes.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Originally, because of the surpression of any news, I doubted very much a Syrian nuke facility. Then the US was shown proof, and some of this disclosed. It turns out is was a Nuke project, but not with missile caperbility, but for launching via other means.
Here, Israeli Intel proved more efficient than US, which failed to detect India and Pakistan's nuke facilities, despite that these were US allies. The world has become a dangerous place - and its not the fault of US or Israel. Ultimately, the war will be with China, which has a huge nuked up underground city, dug in so deep these are impervious to all current modes of bombs. Here we see, democrasy and an open multi-party goverment premise is safer - despite that some don't like it.
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
And the military option has worked? What was the plan again? Make such a tempting terrorist target of the troops and civilian population in Iraq that they wouldn't bother blowing up people in the US?
and WMD gassings of the kurds - yet Europe and the other M/E states did nothing. As opposed to the previous widely reported gassings like Halabja in 1988, and what was the response then? The Republican government in US and the British government both continued to supply Iraq with chemical weapons. Frankly if the opposite is to sell them more weapons I think doing nothing is a pretty good decision. Its not like this was a startling new occurence! It was 20 years ago. We already had a war in Iraq since then 3 years after Halabja, and that wasn't anything to do with the gassing but with oil. TTFN, WK
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Shield Member (Idle past 2890 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
What WMD gassing?
You DO know what a WMD is? Right? You cant just go and call everything thats kill more than 1 at a time a WMD. Saddam had no WMDs, he did terrible shit to iraqi citizens, but so fucking what? He did that too while americans and the EU was dealing weapons and chemicals with this guy. How about china, north korea or pakistan? Or sudan? Worse shit happens there than have ever happened in Iraq. This war has NOTHING to do with saddam killing his citizens. USA and EU still trades with the worst dictators around the world, and they will continue to do so, as long as its not more profitable to just invade them. Furthermore, you DO know that since the invasion of Iraq, the iraqi citizens have it much worse. And its not just the war between the sunni and shiits that has made it so. Its the americans. Americans have truly made life in iraq a living hell. Ofcourse, you will rebuke this by repeating that Saddam used WMD's on his own citizens. For you, it dosent matter that its a lie, you know, but you dont really care, because your mind is already made up. To the OP:Do you really think that the CIA would have acted any diffrent simply because a democrat was in the white house? Then you know nothing about the CIA. Do you really think there such a big diffrence between the republicans and democrats? Then you know nothing about US politics. The war with saddam has killed hundreds of thousands civilians so far, the rest are living far below the living standards before the war. If you think for a second, that Rumsfeld, Bush, Rice, Powell and Rove thought for a second that there was actually WMDs in Iraq, you havent been listening to them. In 2000-2001-2002 both rice and powell and rumsfeld stated several times that iraq was no longer pursuing nuclear weapons. And one last thing, you DO know who the americans are fighting FOR dont know? The Supreme Islamic Council, who political idealogy is Islamism. Yea, that sounds fucking great, all those americans, dying so a foolish religion gets power, the power to supress its people.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: Yes, absolutely. Not to be confused with the garden variety internal terrorism now being perpertrated there. These are two seperate creatures - but those anti-US forces are hell bent on looking for excuses to distort. Fact is, Bush's adventure exposed something by default: if you hit the core of terrorism, you gonna find terrorism. Guess what you find when you hit a dump of rubbish - a whole lot of rubbish spews out. Success.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: Breaking News. Yes I do; yes Sadaam did possess 'weapons of mass destruction' - that was the gas used on kurds - illegal and an WMD w/o confusion or distortion. Syria too has WMD now - bio and chem. Libya was nearing Nuke WMD.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: I'm with you on this one. Bush stuffed up, but for different reasons than what the Dem Dumbos tell it. If the Dems but took on Bush for evading Saudi Arabia post 9/11 - they would have walked in to the white house. But they're loony bins. I agree that not a single $ or US life should have been expended - the Saudi and Egyptian regimes owe US trillions for 9/11, the entire regime belongs in Gitmo, and here, Bush stinks putrid. But that's not what the Dems are saying - they are saying NOTHING against terrorism - blank resumes! Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.
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Shield Member (Idle past 2890 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
IamJoseph>
Fuck this talk about what dems do or dont do. I loath democrats as much as republicans. It's all politics; It's all just a game. It really dosent matter what you label your selfes. John McCains politics is mostly that of the third way(And if you dont know what the third way is, perhaps you should start reading about politics, before you decide, whats going on and whats no going on), same goes for both Obama and Hillary. Fuck this talk about liberals. You obviously have now idea what liberalism is. Infact, you have no fucking idea about a single subject you talked about.You just spew opinion shit as facts, and if you get corrected, you still spew the same shitty lies, because for you, like creationists, how you argue dosent matter, its the outcome. You have no idea about any of the subjects you talk about here, you really dont.. Having one newssource just isent good enough, especially when that source is obviously right wing. I watch more Fox than CNN and BBC, so i really do know. CNN and BCC have almost adopted the same kind of "journalism" that fox runs over the past couple of years. You eat these lies raw, and you fucking enjoy the taste. You could answer the rest of my points too. Just one last thing. I have just one question. You really think that Obama might be muslim right? And he's not loyal to this country simply because he didnt wear a flagpin? Since im pretty sure youre going to answer yes to both questions, do you wear a flagpin? Edited by rbp, : No reason given.
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