Raising Standards

In order to preserve the finest standards in our American schools, culture, society, and methods, we can make efforts to discover relevance in what we choose to provide to the public.Politics is on the forefront at this time, and most people consider how we as a nation are designed. We have three branches and the greatest debate goes on in the Legislative branch, between two parties. The other two branches elicit other emotions, contrary to debate: Executive and Judicial.For the purpose of this proposed discussion topic, we can assume that the Legislative branch is the most powerful of the three branches. When we debate the manner in which we organize our lives, we attempt to provide a fairness in areas where there is no fairness. Providing for our loved ones, whether nation or family, is difficult due to many factors: loss of life, loss of income, loss of health, to name a few. When we are struggling to produce fairness, we design crutches or laws so that boundaries will bind up the total concern as a picture of peace and prosperity when in fact, a number of struggles threaten to undo the overall success of our endeavor.One struggle which we have all undergone is that of educating ourselves. At first we rely upon our schools to provide for us, but soon learn that the ultimate weight of this effort is upon our own shoulders. We pick and choose in an effort to make use of the talents we have for the common good and for the most benefit.I have undertaken this struggle and do not make an attempt at proving it an accomplishment, but rather make an attempt at proving there is need of revision.I did not get welcomed at our universities with total enthusiasm for what I could discover in books. Instead I found certain books excluded from study, from mention, and from respect. Those books I did not understand and yet I was drawn to them. I spent nearly 5 years that could have been spent at university studies, becoming familiar with study material that was only embraced at The Theosophical Society. The material I read while a staff member at the National Headquarters of the Society and the lectures and gatherings I attended made up a core basis for applying myself towards a healthy lifestyle. However this work was not completed until approx. 20 years later, when the time had arrived for the investigation of the work of H.P. Blavatsky on Anthropogenesis in THE SECRET DOCTRINE. At that time, I had also engaged for over 10 years a seperate organization with new writings depicting a similar, but not conjoined, truth.A sudden revelation brought the material I had been studying into perspective in such a way that I became compelled to voice the viewpoint which I had discerned due to certain impending dangers. I have hence departed from my path of a prescribed and healthy lifestyle into a life of danger, threat, and resistance.My schools, while differing with me in their forthrightness, held to ideals that I treasured. Now with this struggle to be heard on my hands, they do not, because they do not open their doors to me.From the "legislative" debate, I was thrust into the "judicial" punishments for lacks within myself for not being able to provide enough compelling drama to convince the society I live in to reexamine a book and author that was earlier (1888) dismissed. Blavatsky's work provides added dignity and fodder to those people who adhere to walking the fine line of truth (wherever they find it). See my webpage for details of her theory of evolution.While I cannot avoid the hardship of raising my voice in this "judicial" atmosphere, I long for and turn my eyes toward the "executive" realm. If I could produce for you a system that incorporates all parties in this debate into a tightly wound tunnel of composite endeavor, we could end the debate by showing a way for all parties to be provided for equally. No member of a religion should have to face exclusion. No member of a science should have to face censorship. All parties could learn new ways to contribute to the sum total of our wealth - our knowledge.I want to raise myself to the "executive" position of leadership in our country for one sole purpose: to make this theory of evolution heard. How can I do so without your aid? Will you vote for me?

I went so far as to print out your message and sit down with a highlighter pen to try to determine your topic's theme. I never found it.So, what is your intended debate theme?Adminnemooseus

If we raise our standards, will the debate end?

For someone concerned about raising standards, you sure put out a muddled message 1. It's pretty much gibberish to me. As presented, it is not meeting forum standards (and they're not that rigorous) and is not going to get promoted to open debate.Perhaps another admin feels differently about it.Adminnemooseus

I'm reading a book called EVOLUTION FOR EVERYONE by David Sloan Wilson. In his Chapter 24, "The Vital Arts", he describes how his university's College of Arts and Sciences is divided into a number of divisions:The Division of Science and Mathematics: physics, chemistry, biology, geology, and psychology
The Division of of Social Sciences: anthropology, economics, geography, history, political science, and sociology
The Division of Humanities: art, English, music, philosophy, religion, and theaterAnd that within this framework, we find a scale of hard to soft or rigorous to less rigorous. He even goes so far as to say that the "soft" Humanities Division is outside the domain of scientific inquiry altogether.He continues with the idea that literature and very often humanities' scholars are writing books and pioneering the study of humanities from an evolutionary perspective, while not even occupying themselves within any Humanities Department faculty. The author, Wilson, laments that these people are excluded from expressing what they know about relating evolution to the study of dance or basket weaving, and are publishing with little respect or support from university publishers.It is as if evolution - due to rigor - can only be examined by those occupied in the "hard" studies or at very least the "semi-hard" studies.I am suggesting to you that I, basically at the moment a person who is a mere housewife, have a theory of evolution to offer the universities that they do not have within their realm of knowledge. I am suggesting that our designs of "hard to soft" are linear when they should be more cyclical in their design, showing how a cycle of evolution, from descent to ascent, occurs with little exclusion.What has happened to me is disturbing on many "fronts," not the least of which is apparent by me asking myself, "What human sensibilities have I lost?" If there is a girasas descending into my form and replacing some of my "old ways" with their "newer, more challenging ways," then I am in danger of not being able to adjust to life - established as it is by my community - as a human. "What have I lost by permitting the girasas kingdom to occupy my mind and body?"While I am sure you are unconcerned for someone in my position, I ask you, "Why have the universities been allowed to continue to show disdain and disregard for true, unfettered knowledge and learning?" Just as no one says that a President has to come from "blue blood" genetic lines, a Researcher, Explorer, or Discoverer does not have to be degreed by our universities to the nth degree. I have a position that I would like to present to them for future study and reporting to our body of students.How do you suggest I go about accomplishing this monstrous job of showing you a replacement for Darwin?

If you have a new hypothesis of biological evolution buried somewhere in your messages, I sure haven't found it.If it's in the books etc. you have cited, that's not good enough to start a new topic. You need to bring some sort of begining sumary of the hypothesis into your message. In other words, you can cite the references as sources, but we need to have some material of the hypothesis as text right in your opening message.Please post such as a new message in this topic. It can be as a reply to this message.Adminnemooseus

I truly am sorry about this misunderstanding. I thought that I could refer readers to my website (which was not linked in the message, but is available to readers who click on my member name). The theory of evolution that I am writing about is presented by H.P. Blavatsky in her book, THE SECRET DOCTRINE, published 1888.See, this alternative theory with supporting evidence was written about soon after Darwin presented his. This theory has additional evidence presented in an independent organization's literature written in the years 1930-1950. The two organizations which I present to you as having evidence for the use of the idea if not necessarily for the clarification of the idea are: THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY AND THE SAINT GERMAIN FOUNDATION.What I did, again, was to study and become familiar with the literature and methods of both groups, especially through 3 1/2 years of working and living at the headquarters of the T.S. in 1977-1981, after which time I returned to university studies and received a degree in psychology in 1984. I attended and associated first-hand with the students at the "I AM" Temple (a Saint Germain Founcation trademark) from 1981 to 1986 (approx.) in Chicago and then after a short break in which I moved to Southern California in 1989, I reassociated with the "I AM" Temple in 1993 and continued with this study until 2004.It was in 1995, that the idea of evolution began to take form in my thinking. The idea can be simply stated and there is a short description of the theory on my webpage. More information can be located by searching the internet on the word "girasas" which I made up to reference to a higher kingdom of nature. This kingdom is presented to you as instrumental in the process of evolution due to the evolution occurring in cycles of descent into form followed by ascent out of form life. As the human kingdom initially was said to have begun its descent 300 million years ago and the entire descent was completed during the first 3 human races, so we continued as a human kingdom during the 4th race and into the 5th race. What is unique about the 5th through 7th races is that the girasas kingdom begins its descent during the 5th race - hence the "creation story" in Genesis refers to the beginnings of the 5th race and not to the beginnings of the 1st race.When we become forms that are "ascending" we become combined with this higher kingdom which is "descending." When we are life that is descending into form during the 1st race through 3rd race, we are combined into association with the lower or animal kingdom. During the 4th race on earth, there is neither girasas kingdom nor evolving animal kingdom present on earth. All evolving animal life is completely ascended off the earth during the 3rd human race (and 7th animal race).What we see as lower kingdoms on earth are life forms that are occupied by a different type of life - an involving life comprised of angelic kingdoms. The angelic kingdoms would accompany each of the evolving kingdoms and would serve that kingdom as its environment. When we ascend off the earth, the plants and animals that reside with us would ascend with us. A "trade-off" may occur at some point as the need for the evolving kingdom's environment to progress occurs. When we meet the animals, it is likely we "hand-down" some of our angels for their use. Likewise, when the girasas meet us, they garnish us with angels that will help our world to exist more peacefully and correctly as we evolve. When we learn to incorporate these new angel lives into our living environments, we allow them to progress and allow ourselves a fuller expression of our capabilities.I hope this explanation helps to understand this position. What I am sure people will still not understand is why the institutions of higher learning in this country vacated their positions of responsibility in researching and presenting available information through books that exist and have existed for over 100 years.Yes, it is true, that THE SECRET DOCTRINE contains a very difficult theory that cannot be readily deciphered and learned, but I would feel very much more secure and looked after if they would have honestly presented an effort. Instead, the book was simply dismissed (as it was by my professor, a teacher of World Religions, in 1975.)The real reason that I wished to present this concept to students and debaters is not to gloat or punish. It is because I want to equip our population with a serious weapon in providing for our lifetimes on earth. LOVE. I have learned that it is through love for each other and for this girasas kingdom that we provide the POWER we need to fuel society. When we love, we generate an actual light substance that can promote the proper organization of the community to the point of solving very difficult problems of energy. We provide for our lifestyles by enriching the community to a saturation point which naturally produces the ideas and solutions that provide us with real power. If we have this energy, we encourage our community towards growth and prosperity.Do you think you could love the girasas kingdom and allow them to penetrate our "thick skulls" to the point of providing us with love for one another?Edited by brendatucker, : No reason given.Edited by brendatucker, : garner became garnish
life form became type of life

An example of Brad's writing: SourceTo me, the above makes about as much sense as what you're presenting.Adminnemooseus

I recognize that it is difficult if you don't enjoy psychology. Science is typically not about the mind, however it is a very useful tool to the scientist.I also recognize that I am playing the long shot because these books have been here for quite some time and the public reception of the books is virtually decided. Why rehash a subject that has been discarded?The problem with the person that you suggest I debate is that he does not present to you a new theory of evolution. When I first encountered THE YOGA SUTRAS OF PATANJALI as a college student, I was overwhelmed and intrigued by the books mysterious set of instructions. Step by step in simple one sentence, numbered, statements, powers were presented as attainable (in Book III) when the rules were followed.Naturally, a psychologist might find study of the paranormal fascinating in much the same way that a psychologist might attempt to mediate through differences or investigate cults. It is in the job description.What I wish to mostly do is present you with a theory from 1888 that was dismissed by our learned authorities at that time. Since then it was studied privately, but no one I know could present the findings in a way that I now am capable of doing.The most important tenant is that a higher kingdom of nature ascends a lower kingdom (out of form life) and that a lower kingdom of nature "captures" the higher kingdom and induces it into existence in form. It is as if water displaces air by rushing into a receptacle.No one that I know of has produced a presentation of this theory in an acceptable form. I would very much like to be the first presenter who can give you an easy job of considering further study and implications or that the simple form is enough for whatever work you are doing and that you desire no changes to your lifestyle and approach to whatever occupation and hobbies you are engaged in.One important point is that if a living being is involved in communications with some people and that being is far superior to what we humans can claim to be, then we are certainly at a disadvantage in causing certain desired effects.I offer to you that I enjoyed myself immensely studying and practicing before I knew the "gist" of what I am presenting to you. Before I calculated that a higher kingdom was first combining and then separating from the human in an ascension process, I was blissfully happy to conform and participate. When this astounding realization presented itself to me, I became awkward, dissatisfied, feeling sneaky and deceitful in my practice.I am ashamed to claim for myself what is rightfully deserving to another kingdom. I am ashamed to place upon others a being of which they are unaware. I am besieged into working to make people aware of my findings and have met only deadends when I approach the two organizations which I loved and associated with. My only recourse seemed to be to take the idea public where the sheer numbers of listeners would produce a demand for these two organizations to own up to their "underlying" motives.If we can find enough voters, members or participants to overwhelm the organizations into providing leadership that is conducive to honest investigation, we will be making serious headway with groups that may be unappreciated otherwise.The name of the book: THE SECRET DOCTRINE implied covert activity. It doesn't have to be so.The guilt that people feel when they try so hard to invite and entertain a girasas kingdom into their lives is often compounded due to the failings that they do not expect to find in their natures when they cling to the process of religion. If they knew of this kingdom, they could honestly approach the kingdom with a renewed sense of wellbeing. They are not changing immediately and drastically into a girasas. They are merely "stepping aside" and puttting themselves out of the way while the girasas acts and thinks and then re-assuming the role as actor when the girasas completes an action. The human has not changed into the girasas, but allowed it a moment to accomplish a great work and then allowed it to remove itself and travel on its way into other great work.Until this girasas kingdom is somehow tied into the very nature of the human (a 6th race event and 400,000 years into the future), we must resolve ourselves to be at their beck and call. We can approach them with prayers and supplications, purifying ourselves so that we will be even more inviting to them, offer ourselves as a worker for whatever field they are working in and so on and so forth, but in the long run, they are a foreign, invasive, living and unpredictable influence that threatens to turn us into retards due to their sheer magnitude of evolution.I hesitate to inform others that in a dual relationship, it is the human which is small helpless and evil. I want to appreciate myself for what I am and the evolution that is apparent in me, but I also want so much to help the world solve its problems. If I could provide this theory as a solution to this ongoing debate, we oculd work together more effectively in discovering what the girasas kingdom is in comparison to what the human kingdom is. If they are enmeshed together in us, it is left to our powers of discernment to identify where and when each of the two acts.To command this kingdom into action is a noble feat and test of the human skill.

Oh, and no, I don't want to debate Brad McFall, however if you're interested, I'm sure the I AM Temple is holding classes and asking for assistance with the California wildfires. This is what I really like to do, but basically, I haven't been around them much in the past 4 years.My children are teenagers and it's harder to get them to participate in suits and dresses. The drive in L.A. traffic is intolerable, so I was hoping that I could do this work and with any awards I might be entitled to, I could build temples. I think I'd like to build 200 temples, 4 per state, so that most people wouldn't have to drive more than an hour to get to one in their locality. I'd also like to build one right her in the San Fernando Valley in the City of Los Angeles. We only have 3: one downtown, one in Pasadena, and one in Long Beach and I don't see my husband moving to make it any easier for me to participate. The rules of the temple require twice a week classes to attend the summer program at Mt. Shasta for two weeks plus a 7 week introductory course has to be completed twice a year in order to continue as a member. There are no fees for this only for the books, CDs, and tapes.I can't manage the drive to downtown where I used to attend because traffic volume increased quite a bit and the kids grew up. So where I attend church right now is only 1 mile or so from where I live and they have a great program where they are building a new $6 million church. It's quite costly and I'm out of work. I'd love to find a way to help people find out more about what we have available to us at this time. You might find you like the books and music.

Another thing that this is is a raising of questions - a kind of invitation to approach the subject from different angles or a "call for papers" like they do in the big times.I would so like to raise an army of students who can work and rework the material in ways that make it more palatable.I also think that we shouldn't take lightly the prospect of holding a talent search. Looking at every person regardless of education, physical beauty, or status, we look at them for their willingness and ability to contribute along the lines being studied. It's like opening a new doorway to some form of success because these people are the ones capable of providing useful experiences for cataloging.Signed, Yours truly, the founder of the "buried" theory

There might be a hypothesis buried somewhere in your previous messages, but I personally wouldn't bet on it.Your efforts do not meet standards for release into the standard forum sub-forums. I'll release this topic to the "Free For All" and we shall see what happens. I hope Brad takes part.Adminnemooseus

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