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Global warming - fact or conspiracy?

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Taz
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Message 106 of 111 (467185)
05-20-2008 2:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 105 by Legend
05-20-2008 2:49 AM

Re: Who gives a crap
Anything specific you have in mind?
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I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Message 107 of 111 (467229)
05-20-2008 9:46 AM 		Reply to: Message 106 by Taz
05-20-2008 2:53 AM

Re: Who gives a crap
Financially, anything that's tagged with a 'green' tax label.
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From a freedoms perspective, I'm talking about the restriction on movement that higher fuel taxes, congestion charges, plane taxes, etc. result in. Also, the surveillance society that we're slowly but steadily becoming. My rubbish bin is already tagged and chipped, you know!
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"We must respect the law, not let it blind us away from the basic principles of fairness, justice and freedom"
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Message 108 of 111 (467236)
05-20-2008 12:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 107 by Legend
05-20-2008 9:46 AM

Re: Who gives a crap
Oh yeah, I forgot you brits have cameras all over the place.
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I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Legend
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Message 109 of 111 (467462)
05-21-2008 6:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 108 by Taz
05-20-2008 12:16 PM

Re: Who gives a crap
Not only have we got cameras,we also like taking pictures of our neighbours overfilling their rubbish bin so that we can fine them!
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It's all for the sake of the environment you understand!
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"We must respect the law, not let it blind us away from the basic principles of fairness, justice and freedom"
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Message 110 of 111 (468389)
05-29-2008 7:58 AM

Who gives a crap II
O.K. Lets say that global warmings spot on and it is being caused by humans.
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Who cares? Reallllly who cares?
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I think that we all do but what are we doing about it!?!?!?
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If you take the Technology*Population*Affluency = Ecological Footprint what are we gonna do about it.
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Technology
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Well technology seems to be the obvious place to start. Most people seem to believe that our technology can achieve anything. Possibly. But I wouldn't bet on this to start with.
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Population
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Affluent populations seem to have low birth rates. But the increase in populations is likely to continue growing with people form overcrowded regions moving to more spacious areas. Also particular cultural beliefs tend to encourage large families.
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Affluence
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Well this is an interesting one. Why not simply stop using so much products and energy? Because change is difficult and we like our cavalier lifestyle. Also our economic machine has been focused on breeding a habit instant gratification. Using less products or energy is going to require self-control. It looks like necessity is going to bring this. The question is what will the necessity be?
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Message 111 of 111 (468464)
05-29-2008 4:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 110 by VirtuousGuile
05-29-2008 7:58 AM

Re: Who gives a crap - I do!
Why not simply stop using so much products and energy? Because change is difficult and we like our cavalier lifestyle.
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err...not quite. It's because products and energy provide us with our current level of quality of life.
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Using less products or energy is going to require self-control.
No, it's going to require huge sacrifices and a big drop in our standard of living.
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It looks like necessity is going to bring this.
It looks like totalitarian regimes backed by semi-religious zealots are going to bring this.
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"We must respect the law, not let it blind us away from the basic principles of fairness, justice and freedom"
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