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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Ok, everyone the topic is the war on Christmas. Let's keep it to that please.
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2848 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
Separatist Puritan writes:
Then by what means is the correct interpretation of scripture made, as there are many different interpretations? God doesn't talk to people as a voice in their head,.. that is extra biblical revelation. God speaks through his Word, the holy Scripture not some mystical voice in some ones head. edit-sorry admin posted simultaneously.. Edited by shalamabobbi, : No reason given.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4929 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
shalamabobbi writes: Then by what means is the correct interpretation of scripture made, as there are many different interpretations? its pretty simple really, you dont go adding things that are not there... is christmas in there?
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2848 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
Hi Peg,
We meet again. I guess this is a thread about Christmas being evil because it's not in the bible? I guessed it backwards then. Some things just aren't worth reading. So Christmas is kind of like the evil grapefruit that is not found there either.. Let's see, a Christmas tree could be symbolic of the tree of life and that would definitely be evil I guess. The point of the previous post, though its OT, is that 'sola scriptura', is self contradictory as there are many interpretations floating about.
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Von Cullen Junior Member (Idle past 5481 days) Posts: 13 Joined: |
its pretty simple really, you dont go adding things that are not there... is christmas in there? Actually, no, its not there. The term Christmas is actually a derivative of two words...."Christ Mass". Anyone familiar with Catholicism knows what "Mass" is. It is also important to note that it was the RCC that required the recognition of Christs birth to be on Dec 25th. Most will say this is incorrect because the Bible doesnt say when Christ was born. This would also be incorrect. While its true that Christ was not born on Dec 25th, the Bible does in fact explain when Christ was born. You just have to know a little history of the Hebrew Calendar as well as the history of Jewish priestly courses, in this case, the Levitical Courses.
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Straggler Member Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Straggler; Just to make sure we are on the same page I am talking about preaching the Word, not "witnessing" door to door, or on the street corner or protests and rallies. I am talking about preaching the Word of God as it is instructed on Lord's Day to a congregation. But to what end? Preaching seems paradoxically pointless in light of what you have said about predetermined salvation. You are not just preaching to the converted. You are preaching to those who could never be anything but converted regardless of your preachings.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4929 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
shalamabobbi writes: The point of the previous post, though its OT, is that 'sola scriptura', is self contradictory as there are many interpretations floating about. christmas has nothing to do with interpretation because there is nothing to interpret. Its an additive...an unnecessary additive.
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2848 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
Separatist Puritan in post 179 writes:
This is the reason for the comment. It had nothing to do with the OP. I was attempting to help SP see the self-contradictory nature of his viewpoint.
God doesn't talk to people as a voice in their head,.. that is extra biblical revelation. God speaks through his WordPeg writes:
conceded..
christmas is an additive...an unnecessary additive.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Happy Holidays folks.
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frako Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
I dunno if it has been mentioned though an interesting fact came to mind
During WW1 on one of the fronts:
The Germans began by placing candles on their trenches and on Christmas trees, then continued the celebration by singing Christmas carols. The British responded by singing carols of their own. The two sides continued by shouting Christmas greetings to each other. Soon thereafter, there were excursions across the 'No Man's Land', where small gifts were exchanged, such as food, tobacco and alcohol, and souvenirs such as buttons and hats. The artillery in the region fell silent that night. The truce also allowed a breathing spell where recently-fallen soldiers could be brought back behind their lines by burial parties. Joint services were held. The fraternisation was not, however, without its risks; some soldiers were shot by opposing forces. In many sectors, the truce lasted through Christmas night, but it continued until New Year's Day in others. from Christmas truce - Wikipedia
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4228 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
wage war?
everyone knows Jesus Harold Christ was born on December 25th in the year 0. its a birthday celebration. Let me guess all the non-Christians refuse to take the holiday and work anyway those days?
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Artemis Entreri writes:
It was a pagan holiday long before Jesus was a gleam in Yahweh's eye. Do all the Christians refuse to decorate Christmas trees?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
its a birthday celebration. Actually, it is, by far, the largest piston in the economic engine of Western economies that has been cleverly disguised as a secular holiday with a few leftover religious overtones.
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Actually, it is, by far, the largest piston in the economic engine of Western economies that has been cleverly disguised as a secular holiday with a few leftover religious overtones. Shhh . . . don't let the cat out of the bag. If the feds find out they might send in Ralphie, their most deadly assassin:
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AdminPD Inactive Administrator |
If this topic is to be revived, participants need to reacquaint themselves with the OP (Message 1) and the point of the topic. Don't just go by the title.
I want to discuss this so called "War on Christmas" that comes up every year. I know a big part of it is the removal of manger scenes from public parks and such. But I suspect it is huge issue nationwide created by fundies. I would like to hear of examples and possibly refutations. I don't know where this should be promoted, Faith and belief? Also remember this is not the Coffee House Forum, the Free For All Forum or a Humor thread. This thread is in the Comparative Religions Forum and we ask that religious issues be treated respectfully.
Please direct any comments concerning this Administrative msg to the Report Discussion Problems Here 3.0 thread. Any response in this thread will receive a 24 hour suspension. Thank youAdminPD |
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