Why do unbelievers hate christians most?

Why do unbelievers hate me and argue against me, and want me killed so badly? Why does Schraff want me dead? Why do you attack me all the day long. You hunt me down and seek my life because you are against me!!!!!!!! I went to a new forum, in hope of being welcomed - and they all seeked my life as soon as I mentioned I believe in God. They think because they have followed a certain gravy path that I should have also weakened and fainted on this path I am on, and joined their gravy path. They want me dead - you're against me!!!!!!!These forum people here are against me!!!!! They seek my life. I am hunted like a prey, all the day Yaro and evos want my blood on their tongue. Like a lion they seek to devour me. They seek to rid Christ's words in favour of suicide bombers. They love the evil and detest the good; they choose self-righteoussness in their own eyes, while digging a grave for me.Does Dan Carroll delight in my death? Why do you detest all christians? Why am I called a bigot for mentioning what the bible says? You hate me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Schraff has a knife and fork - she sits and waits to eat me for supper! Don't wait for a refutation to pop into your head - admitt you hate christians most I tell you!!!You hate christians most!(This topic doesn't include NEd, Asgara, Lam or Loudmouth, they have not desired to cook me in an oven and throw me to the birds) - and a few others who don't hate me. But Schraff definitely hates me! And is also against me! And SleepingDragon always seeks to hurt me and destroy me and throw me to the lions to delight in me being torn to pieces. He utterly wants me killed and torn and smited to bits. And also - I would even say he is against me!!!And hates my existence on earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!So why do I get this if it isn't true? There must be a proper reason as to why you hate christians most! Is it because of creationism?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over...

Actually, the specific things Dan delights in these days are Dragonball, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and a very pretty redhead who, oddly enough, is Catholic.I can reccomend a few good meds for these inflated feelings of self-importance though.

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"Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
-Rob Grant and Doug Naylor

LOL, that's a good one Mike, when have I ever demanded your blood? Jeez...

MTWITS BECAUSE OF THAT STUPID SMILEY FACE GLARING OUT AT ME FROM YOUR AVATAR!IT IS IN ALL MY DREAMS INSTRUCTING ME TO KILL!KILL! KILL! I CANNOT TAKE IT ANYMORE WHERE IS MY UZI? OH NO I AM OUT OF D.U SHELLS LUCKILY I STILL HAVE FLESCHETTES! OOOOHHHH YOU SMILEY FACES ARE GOING TO GET IT NOW BWaHahaha...{Grabs bak of monitor and slowly places head against screen breathing heavily}Sorry sometimes the meds take awile to kick Imok! Im ok! I am ok?! Whew What were you on about?

I've not been on these forums long enough to know you. Is this a put on? Do you seriously feel hated?My impression is that right now because of the terrorism issue muslims are most at risk of being hated. Jews have often taken a lot of hatred and persecution. Someone posted a quote attributed to George Bush the father of the current president that he thought atheists shouldn't be allowed to be citizens. Seeing what the church mambership is like in this country I think agnostics, atheists, Buddhists, Hindus come in before Christians.Instead of hatred I'm going to suggest that the fundamentalists attitude that all other religions were created by Satan and their followers are controlled by demons is responsible for a great deal of resentment, and understandably so.I certainly have no hatred of you. But the internet can be a rough place. This forum is so much nicer than usenet. But why not take a break and just spend time at your church in the company of people who share your beliefs?Buddha has compassion for you, so you might as well have compassion for yourself.lfen

Yet you say I have demanded blood."Real Christians are good,
What about the Inquisition, manifest destiny, witch-hunts, anti-abolition?
Oh, they weren't good, so they weren't true christians." - Yaro"I think you should all be killed as quickly and cheaply as possible." - SchraffYou suggest that I hunt witches, etc.. and Schraff wants me dead.I don't remember hunting witches or being part of any dark age. Likewise, atheist or evolutionist doesn't mean Dan Carroll is a nazi. (But a lil red-head informs me otherwise. )"Cuz if you had it your way there would be an all out holy war what with us, good christ loving christians, acting as terrorists ourselves. You sound like a freakin nazi." - Yaro."Christianity and the christain cause have caused far FAR more deaths thrughout the world than what Islam has ever done." - Yaro.Yaro - 33% of the world - according to your sides logic, are christian. 33% of the world probably is a bigger number than any christians on earth previously. Most of them probably consist of Jar-like peaceful people. Why do you seek to call me a nazi and kill me - and watch me be killed. Are you against me? Have I really acted so awful towards you at this forum? Did I say evil against you that I should be beheaded for your joy?Sidelined:
Ifen: I have no beef with Buddha, I've never said bad things about him. Also - America is one country, not the world. Jus cos there are intolerant fundies there, doen't mean you have to hate me and wish I could be cooked in fundie source. And I even suggest that this post of yours seems to make you against me, and even want me dead.

As I recall those statements weren't directed at you. We were illustrating a point to the very biggoted guy (I forgot his sn ).I was not insinuating that YOU were on a witch-hunt, I was illustrating the double standard that whats-his-face was using to judge Islam. Again, I was responding to whats-his-face who was claiming to be a true christian as well as his statements about Nuking all Muslems. That's just a historical fact mike. Sorry, it's just true. I never called for your death. I don't recall a single time I wished for violence on another. I critisized whats-his-face and said he should be in prison, because the guy was an off-his-rocker fanatic.He was pissing me off with his rhetoric. But not you mike.

Has christianity caused far more deaths? Or have the ones professing to be christian done it? How can you know they wouldn't use another religions name if Christ didn't come? Do you really think Christ words of "love your enemy" REALLY apply to these people Yaro? Be genuine with me. It is necessary that I say "you are against me" but I was being ignored, and I had to go back in time and be a bad guy again. Nevertheless, I am not YEC anymore.Let's say we use a conditional implication that "Love your enemy = causes more deaths than ever before".Is this a logical implication? Is it really conditional Yaro? Is the antecedant of loving someone really going to lead to killing (consequent). For me, that's a silly premise. I can't buy it, it's inductive.If someone claims to be christian and does cause murder, how is that conditional to Christ?It's like me saying; "Hitler was evolutionist" - It implies that evolution has something to do with his actions, when we all know it didn't. Only Zephyr has ever been willing to agree with me on this, because he is so genuine. But if we say christianity has caused more death than anything else, it insults my logic box. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think murderous actions are relevant to any religion unless the religion says to do it. Please provide a statement where Christ says to go and murder.So in a way you are against me, but nevertheless, I could say something silly like; "Dahmer was atheist when he killed" that means atheism must cause killings. They ARE NOT conditional!Also, the christian cause is "CHRIST"ian. You are lying to yourself if you think Christ would approve of murder.I reckon that humans are guilty of causing more death - throught the "use" of religions. Like 9/11 - they "used" Islam for THEIR cause.My dad is atheist - and even he can see that they "use" the Lord's name for evil.

I agree with this statement Mike, and perhapse my accusation was malformed. People have caused much more harm in the name of Christ and Christianity than any other religion.Hows that?I agree with you wholeheartedly BTW, those who follow Jesus's very enlightend words would most certainly not wish death on anyone. Jesus was a great philosopher and teacher. IMO christians should spend more of their time meditating on his words instead of those belonging tp the Apostles and the OT.In any case, I just wanted to let you know that we are on the same side on this issue Mike. People kill people for all sorts of reasons, unfortunetly Religion seems to be a big one for them.Religion is most often the exuse given and not the motivator for the actions themselves.This message has been edited by Yaro, 08-05-2004 05:16 PM

Go back to the true christian thread. Address the arguments you ignored.

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"Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
-Rob Grant and Doug Naylor

For the record, I don't hate christians. I just don't like them. A few of them have committed some terrible crimes and many more of them have the potential to do the same thing. Call me a bigot, I just don't think christians are as good as they claim to be.

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The Laminator
For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!

Ya know Mike, it's funny but haveing seen F 911 yesterday I started to speculate about what will unfold in the US in this century.There is a holy war on! Some so-called "Christian" cults have attacked first but the battle will be enjoined over the next few decades. The USA (especially) splits into two camps.The "liberals" vs "conservatives", the "religious" vs the "secular", the "rational" vs the "faithful" the "tolerant" vs the "intolerant" with only some stradling the fence.I think there is a very real chance that a non-geographical, cultural civil war is starting to erupt in your country. Over the next decades there is no telling who will win. I am, of course, convinced that if the irrational side wins the USA will have finished it's run as a world power. All of that will take a century to unfold but it is unfolding around us now.It is probably too late to stop the slide now but maybe a significant emphasis on education will make it possible to reverse the schism after another generation.The quality of thinking that is engendered by those who can't tolerate other points of view is exemplified here. That type of thinking carried over into important societal decisions will lead to slow deterioration and eventual disaster. By the way, all of the above is NOT a split on Christian and non Christian lines. I agree with you that it is unfair to characterize all Christians on the actions of some. That is way the various labels I attached to the "sides" are all in quotes.Many of the "intolerent" side will be non Christian and even atheist. However there is a segment of your society that is feeding off those who are in a very special way "deeply religious". Religion, by definition, is based on faith based acceptance. That is, by definition, uncheckable and allows for the entry of other dogmatic views in economics and politics. It is dangerous as has been shown over and over.It is too easy to use religion for evil. Much too easy. If that isn't corrected then religion must be diluted to be less of a powerful tool for those with evil intent.

This is most pleasing. And I even suggest that you are not against me, and you don't want me dead.Also - I found this statement highly accurate and intelligently placed; Yes! Yes! - Indeed you are not against me and you don't want me dead! You have understood that I have sought to protect the perfect words of Christ, I even suggest you don't want me dead!I hate man's actions and love God. Therefore it is wise that you say good of God but not man! For man did these murderous actions.Okay then Yaro, I repent of my evil - you are not against me!

Yes! Indeed it is easy to use religion for evil, I agree. I think I did note though, that I have found no evil words spoken by you - against me, or Lam.I suppose I am sick of being put in the same basket as those other guys. Everywhere I go, people falsely assume I am homophobic and creationist YEC. So they immediately try to "stop" my words about Christ because they think I am a fundie, and I'm thinking "Huh!- I only said I believe in Christ?!?".So - I guess the baby is thrown with the bathwater. Maybe "christian" is an over-used term, and so I take offense. As it seems by your post, (mentioning all these different "kinds") - the issue is not black and white when concerning this ilusive term "christian". I can not be a fundie or YEc, yet I am still christian. Ho hum.Indeed you don't want me dead, Ned.