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Huntard
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Message 76 of 83 (578411)
09-01-2010 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by archaeologist
09-01-2010 5:29 PM


archaeologist writes:
didn't do that as i believe i made the point that we can test creation by going to thenurseries fo the world and seeing it in action.
Wait... God is creating things ex-nihilo in nurseries?

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crashfrog
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Message 77 of 83 (578412)
09-01-2010 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by archaeologist
09-01-2010 5:39 PM


not anymore. once i found out it can be fabricated, its credibility went out the window.
It can't actually be fabricated.

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nator
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Message 78 of 83 (578413)
09-01-2010 5:45 PM
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09-01-2010 5:39 PM


Well, I'm talking about when it is properly performed, of course.
I mean, just because evidence can potentially be falsified in a police investigation doesn't mean that all evidence in every police investigation is falsified.
Let's say that someone is trying to do a geneological study. Or maybe they are trying to find out if they have the breast cancer gene, or the Sickle Cell gene.
Do you accept those DNA test results as valid?

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hotjer
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Message 79 of 83 (578422)
09-01-2010 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by archaeologist
09-01-2010 5:37 PM


Re: sigh....
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the question is do you really? how can modern day 'equations' describe the supernatural or the conditions of the ancient world? they cannot because they are based upon assumption not fact.
The scientific community does not concentrate on the supernatural. Science is about to explain and understand natural phenomena. Why do you care so much? Science do not give a shit about religion. You can worship anyone and they do not give a fuck. Scientists just try to understand this complex world. And yes, scientists have a fairly good understanding of ancient people with respect to the little amount of material that have survived through the ages. However, they probable have a hard time to explain Atlantis since it is probably a myth and there is no clear evidence for such existence. The same goes for when Muhammed visited god in Heaven — no evidence. All of mankind except for seven people died because of a flood? No evidence — they cannot explain how the events in the bible occurred if they do not have any for such events. It is very easy, but again, they do not give a fuck about god, but merely his creation if there is a god. If there is no god, they just want to explore this beautiful universe. Damn kid
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God's 'mentality and morality' are NOT n question as you are not fit to judge that. Yes God can do anything He wants, He is God BUT He has made it faith a requirement because He wants people to truly believe Him. anyone can believe whenthey see the evidence but it takes another type of person to believe and follow when they only have His word.
He is able to make everything happen. You said it yourself. Therefore; god cannot be used in science; he is supernatural. Problem solved — I was right. Understand the paradoxes in Christianity and maybe I accept you as a Christian. As it is now; you are no more than just a philistine.
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evidence has been given, andthere is only so much physical evidence around faith will always be part of the equation. evolutionary evidence is NOT evidence. it is mere speculation, assumption, conjecture and never has been observed.
What are the evidences? Not the bible, it was written by a lot of people that were not godly inspired but had grudges and different ideas of how the events happened. Johannes Slkke explains this very well in dozens of his books. Furthermore, look up the documentary hypothesis if you care about such thing as linguistic — which is probably not the case. There is nu such thing as evolutionary evidence. There are evidence and some of these evidence seems to fit the THEORY OF MOTHER FUCKING EVOLUTION — you know — A THEORY, SCIENTIFIC THEORY just to be specific you damn troll (I really hope you are) -.-
And no, I do not believe in evolution - learn the meaning of words please — I accept the theory of evolution and I am aware of the evolution as a fact. I do not have any supernatural thoughts or deity-like feelings for the theory of evolution since it just explain the diversity of life. It has nothing to do with god. At best (in your perspective), it simply explains an unintelligent process created by god.
Seriously though, if you do only care about preaching, please keep quiet. I am not on a forum to listen to missionaries — it a FORUM, where people DISCUSS and DEBATES about evolution and creationism — not PREACHING. Do you know the differences between; discuss, debate, and preaching? If you do not, just do not reply to this message since you, probably, will not discuss this topic and just keep preaching and insulting people. Show some love for your neighbour, dude..

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Dr Jack
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Message 80 of 83 (578423)
09-01-2010 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by archaeologist
09-01-2010 5:37 PM


Re: sigh....
God's 'mentality and morality' are NOT n question as you are not fit to judge that. Yes God can do anything He wants, He is God BUT He has made it faith a requirement because He wants people to truly believe Him. anyone can believe whenthey see the evidence but it takes another type of person to believe and follow when they only have His word.
Wow, he sounds like a horrible abusive bastard.
Why are you worshipping him?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 81 of 83 (578460)
09-01-2010 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by archaeologist
09-01-2010 5:29 PM


didn't do that as i believe i made the point that we can test creation by going to thenurseries fo the world and seeing it in action.
Er ... have you ever been to a nursery?
Only if not you'd be surprised how few acts of ex nihilo creation one sees.
we do not need to 'falsify' creation for that is a secular requirement but if you want to falsify it, we could say that God had the choice to create or not. and it is falsified.
Perhaps you ought to find out what "falsified" means.
but i am here simply to repeat what I said in another thread. evolutionists are not replicating the claimed evolutionary changes and that disqualifies it from being science.
No it doesn't, because that is not a requirement of science.
The rest of your post just seems to be an elaboration on this daft mistake, so I think I can leave it at that.

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Message 82 of 83 (578515)
09-01-2010 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by archaeologist
09-01-2010 5:29 PM


Moderator Request
Hi Archaeologist,
Would you please fulfill my request from Message 64. Thanks.
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menes777
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Message 83 of 83 (581811)
09-17-2010 4:17 PM


100 Tough Question... Errr 21 I mean
I was reading through the site Archie links to and found the 100 Tough Questions and Answers. To which it dead ends at 21.
http://www.archiesarena.com/gpage8.html
Gives you an idea about how much credibility you can give the rest of the place.

  
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