Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread

The Protestant Reformers identified the papacy as the seat of the Antichrist based on its false doctrine and multiple contradictions with scripture, and embrace of pagan religions. Each Pope is Antichrist in his turn. Eventually there will be a final one who resumes ruling the world as the medieval Popes did.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You can take that up with the courts that punished the five or six Christian businesses with fines for refusing to cater to gay weddings.

Please list the 5-6.
Also, any that were fined broke the law. In your words they are criminals. Ergo, they were punished.

Yes, of course they broke the law and of course they were punished. Obviously the law no longer protects Christians.This has been discussed here many times. If I can find a post listing those businesses I will reference it. It was a florist, I think in New Mexico, two or three bakeries, one in Oregon, one in Colorado, a photographer, I think in Arizona, at least. Also a pizza business somewhere in the South but Christians rallied to save them.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That is simply not true. You have tried to discuss the issues as well. You've just done an incredibly poor job. For example you tried to express an opinion about Waterboarding when you did not even know what that was. You tried to use evidence of voting to describe to make a point and then you had to back off when that method did not go your way.And beyond that you've continued to make excuses for Trump's over the top talk by labelling attempts to discuss that as PC. Making excuses for Trump while pouncing on everyone else is total nonsense. And your own speech is full of personal attacks. Lectures from you on the correct means of expression are pointless.Pot meet kettle. Actually, for the most part I applied those labels to Trump based on the words out of his mouth. I did not even go so far as to apply them to you even after you said that his slander was okay with you as long as a single illegal immigrant committed a criminal act. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

I'm soooooooo sorry I have to correct you as usual. I did make comments about the issues from time to time and wish I hadn't because it wasn't what I was interested in. You should have noted that I didn't say I didn't discuss them at all, only that it was the PC topic that was my focus.Also I'm not just talking about personal attacks as such, I'm talking about POLITICAL CORRECTNESS which I've described in Message 837. I don't care all that much if you call someone stu-pid, I'm talking about POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, which is a special brand of propaganda/slander.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Your PC presumptuous mindreading of his words, not anything he actually said.

"Slander? That he said there were rapists among them? What else? I had no problem with it because it isn't slander. I'm not going to denounce somebody for saying awkward things in a debate, but you all pounce on such gaffes. It's tiresome. I don't even normally support Trump all that much, or know half of what he's said, but the kinds of rhetoric you all use against him are too objectionable to leave alone.

Show me how that's out of context. It says that the government only exists because God allows it to.

The context is other parts of the Bible, as I said, that tell us to obey God rather than man. When the Sanhedrin ordered the apostles not to preach in Christ's name they answered: If there is a conflict between the earthly government and the heavenly, you obey the heavenly. And there is a conflict between the law validating gay marriage and God's law that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, and identifies homosexual sex as sin worthy of death.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Torture is evil, and not merely wrong.As to whether Trump is evil -- that, I do not know. He might just be playing fundamentalists for fools (and doing so very effectively).

They were mistaken. The real seat of the Antichrist is American fundamentalist Christianity.

Which is amazing on so many levels. You sat there and strenuously advocated the use of waterboarding without even knowing what is was! You no doubt just heard these pithy little commentaries by Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or wherever else that justified it, so you assumed that it must be great without even investigating it for yourself. That is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard and highlights how much your personal biases affect your judgment.And nice wording, by the way... You didn't "get to find out what waterboarding was?" We all assumed that you knew what it was because you have been arguing in favor of it! Look up the FACTS then! Faith, generally somebody arguing in favor of something and defending it tooth and nail means that they already know what something is. The fact that you were defending a practice that you admittedly don't even know what it is, and then turn around and blame other people for YOUR intellectual laziness by not holding your hand and walking you through the learning process highlights what a parody you are of yourself!

Not as I recall. I made some attempt to rescue the idea from the extreme denunciations of Trump, but not much because as I kept saying I didn't know much about it.And I wasn't interested in knowing much about it. I was objecting to how Trump is talked about by his opponents, and I would object no matter whether I agree with him about waterboarding or not so I didn't care to find out about waterboarding, that wasn't the point for me. The attitude toward the Republicans by the lefties became my main focus and that got me into the stuff about PC. THAT's what I care about, how the left treats people it disagrees with, and I despise it.I had no reason to look up waterboarding, I wanted to see if anybody would emerge from their moralistic lambasting of Trump long enough to give some information about it and eventually a tiny bit emerged.You all treat me the way you treat Trump too. Instead of giving the benefit of the doubt and looking for my good reasons for doing what I do it's all about finding the most fault you can possibly invent.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I note that you still haven't provided any arguments or evidence to suggest that what he wrote isn't actually true.