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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 2995 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
The question I posed was this:
Show us in any of today's good Bible translations "where God's salvation in Christ Jesus has been altered from the manuscripts from which they have been translated?" If you want to stumble over the jots and tittles, that is your choice. The Bible is God's love letter to those He is calling to Himself, offering us salvation in Christ Jesus, and fellowship with Him in eternity. Show us how any of today's good Bible translations do not proclaim this?
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Kapyong Member (Idle past 3442 days) Posts: 344 Joined: |
Gday,
John 10:10 writes: If you want to stumble over the jots and tittles, that is your choice. Translation:I will simply ignore the facts that the NT has been changed. I'll just keep right on preaching...
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 2995 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
John 10:10 writes:
quote: Kapyong writes:
quote: Translation:I haven't got a clue what God's plan of salvation in Christ Jesus is.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Do you plan on addressing the topic?
"Is the bible authoritive and truly inspired?" Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 2995 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
I was addressing the concern that some at this forum have regarding changes in the Bibles we have today that may differ from the original manuscripts, and how all of today's good translations of the Bible clearly present God's plan of salvation in Christ Jesus.
"Is the bible authoritive and truly inspired?" Truly inspired? An emphatic YES! Try answering some of the questions God posed to Job? Authoritive? An emphatic YES! Try violating God's moral laws and see how well your life goes?
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, what is the evidence to support those assertions?
And we have no idea what any book of the Bible said originally. Saying that some message is constant is irrelevant to whether or not there were changes. In reality, even the stories about Jesus seem to have changed and evolved over time. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
John 10;10 writes:
If that "plan" is presented so clearly, why are there so many different denmoniations with different interpretations of what that "plan" is? ... and how all of today's good translations of the Bible clearly present God's plan of salvation in Christ Jesus. Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4189 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Authoritive? An emphatic YES! Try violating God's moral laws and see how well your life goes? For some, such as politicians, corporate heads & pimps, they do quite well. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 2995 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Hebrew and Greek Bible manuscripts in existence today verify that God's plan of salvation in Christ Jesus is clearly presented in the good Bible translations we have today. Your problem is that you don't accept the original Hebrew and Greek Bible manuscripts as being God inspired any more than you accept how they were translated into various languages for the world to read. Regardless of what language the Bible is translated into, God draws those to Himself such as are being saved (Acts 2:27).
As for "stories about Jesus seem to have changed and evolved over time," He declares this:
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But none of that is evidence supporting either that the Bible is authoritative or inspired.
That is the question. Do you have evidence that the Bible is authoritative or inspired? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 2995 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
It's not the different plans of salvation in Christ Jesus which have resulted in so many different Christian denominations.
It's more about the many different denominations emphasizing different truths about how to live godly in Christ Jesus.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 2995 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
bluescat48 writes,
quote: They have not gotten to the end of life's journey yet, nor have they faced the final judgment. As for adultry, ask Tiger how well it went for him?
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 2995 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
You will have all the evidence you want when you meet the One who speaks from Rev 1:17-18.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2295 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
John 10:10 writes:
The adultery itself went pretty sweetly for him. You know what didn't go over well? Getting caught at it. As for adultry, ask Tiger how well it went for him? Also, I've been in the habit of breaking some of god's moral laws as well, I have not stoned any disobedient children, nor have I beat any slaves to within an inch of their lives. I am having a pretty sweet life though. Guess his moral laws aren't all that they are cracked up to be.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2295 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
John 10:10 writes:
Since that will never happen, I guess there will be no evidence forthcoming.
You will have all the evidence you want when you meet the One who speaks from Rev 1:17-18.
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