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Author Topic:   Logos = Universal Algorithm
kofh2u
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Message 23 of 39 (99203)
04-11-2004 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Chimp
04-02-2004 2:45 AM


Intelligent design in "in here," our head.
Semantics is the problem.
As regards ourself, the inner person, our thinking, we, inside our head, create the Universe "out there." The Universe is a reflection or schmata in our mind of that Reality which is "out there" beyond our mind.
We know what is "out there" by means of sensory inputs and deductive and inductive reasoning, all of which culminates in our own head.
We assume from the sensory data that what is "out there" preceeded us.
We presume in the understanding of what is "out there" that it is orderly.
We have become convinced in our logic, and in our mathematics, in our common sensory collaterations that what is "out there" can be known in evermore detail.
Our intuition tells us that the that "out there" is a rational, knowable world.
Intuition is confirmed, in and by our success so far, in having understood what is "out there."
Our awe and our logic tells us that what is "out there" is our master. What is "out there" is important to our survival.
Understanding what is "out there" is important to oir collective survival.
In this, what is ut there" becomes almighty important.
Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God, (The Universal Force out there) created the heaven and the earth.
Gen. 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God (the Natural Laws which function out there) moved upon the face of the waters.
(THEN SKIP DOWN:
These couple of verses prepare us for the coming evolution of Jesus in the New Testament
Gen. 1:26 And God, (The Universal Force, the Macrocosmos out there), said, "Let us, (the Natural Laws), make man, (a conscious mind, to model us, the Universe, as in a Microcosmos of his mind, in order that our image might be modeled after our own orderly organization): and let him (that conscious mind,) have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Gen. 1:27 So God (The Universal Force) created man (an abstract mind in his own image, enabled to image The Universal Force, abstractly and mathematically), so created God (The Universal Force) him; male and female created he them.

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kofh2u
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Message 31 of 39 (100051)
04-14-2004 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by DNAunion
04-14-2004 12:59 PM


so...
All true. The natural laws of chemistry manipulate these five nucleotides evermore repeating chemical compound fotmations exactly the same. A definite inference that the chemistry is fixed, the laws, these are the instructions.
Semantically speaking again, how does this not confirm a mechanical universe?
What is intelligent is us. Wr understand the mechanism, or are coming to understand it. The mechanism is an orderly process of Natural Law. The products produced (like living organisms) have no choice but to take forms which in their design evidence the "mechinery" of the tooling found in the factory.
It is recursive to think that our intelligence presupposesba designer of the factory as opposed to the reality that a "factory," the Universe, is all there is, is our Almighty, is Father Nature.
The Hebrew say this Father is unknowable and ineffiable. It is true, isn't it?

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kofh2u
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Message 33 of 39 (100092)
04-14-2004 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Brad McFall
04-14-2004 7:33 PM


yeah, way too complex for sure...
You are so right.
Why explain it. Who gives a crap and who could refrain from replies that are so off base that a long discourse must ensue explaining what has been explained, to the end that not so short and clear won't be made confusing in a little explanation.
Forget about it.
But I will hint you in the right direction,...
Pascal was toying with the wrong "rabbits" for his insight to really mean anything concerning Fibanacci numbers taken vertically inside of straight across, and all of their contemplations had no knowledge of brain cells.

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kofh2u
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Message 36 of 39 (101841)
04-22-2004 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Brad McFall
04-22-2004 10:42 AM


Re: yeah, way too complex for sure...
Close out?
Seems as a new thread would be a good idea, but in the tgreevweeks since I started investigating this site the protocol has changed.
I am unable to post a new thread. Perhaps this indicates some doctrinal restrictions and suggests that the site promotes some one or another form of their own special rdligiousity.
Good luck.

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