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Author Topic:   Fundamental Biblical Christianity and Fundamental Islam Fundamentally 180% Opposites
Buzsaw
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Message 166 of 182 (99837)
04-14-2004 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 165 by Andya Primanda
04-13-2004 4:35 AM


Re: *bump*
Andya, if you would take a break from the head banging and respond to the specifics of #161, we could proceed and spare your head the pain it must be causing.

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3Hawks
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Message 167 of 182 (100161)
04-15-2004 3:54 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Silent H
12-26-2003 12:19 PM


There is limit stated in the Bible of turning the other cheek.... I believe it says 70 and 7 times. After that then i guess it's alright to use violence, LOL. All religeons teach basicly the same thing( love, peace,ect)..it is the power hungry false profits that take the words and turn them to violence and anarchy.

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Buzsaw
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Message 168 of 182 (100302)
04-15-2004 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by 3Hawks
04-15-2004 3:54 AM


There is limit stated in the Bible of turning the other cheek.... I believe it says 70 and 7 times.
Make that 70 TIMES 7 which makes 490. That pretty much leaves God as the avenger.

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Primordial Egg
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Message 169 of 182 (100492)
04-16-2004 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Buzsaw
04-12-2004 10:44 PM


Re: *bump*
Many of the fundamentalist Islamic nations were publicly jubilant over the 9/11 attacks within their own nations.
...such as?
PE

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Buzsaw
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Message 170 of 182 (100513)
04-16-2004 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Primordial Egg
04-16-2004 8:20 PM


Re: *bump*
There were some on news segments after 9/11, but I don't remember too many specifics, except Somalia and Palestine. It's not that they officially cheered but much of the citizenry and many clerics in these nations were jubilent about what happened to the great satan. There's no doubt nations like Iran, Lybia, Syria, Pakistan, Afganistan, and some African nations were pleased with the Taliban for the attack, expressing jubilance within their own nations.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 171 of 182 (100553)
04-17-2004 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Buzsaw
04-16-2004 10:36 PM


Re: *bump*
And what about the condemnation from every Muslim country and organization? As I remembered it, Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, the Organization of Islamic Conference, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Pakistan, and the PLO all issued official condemnation of 9/11 and terrorist attacks, whwther done by Muslims or not.
Oh, and 'terrorism' must include Israeli state terrorism. The US just reap what it sow by being Israel's guard-dog when terrorists strike them. Not that I agree with al-Qaeda's bloody ways, but if the US could open its eyes and stop supporting the unlawful occupation and mess around with the world, then nobody would have any reason to commit terrorist attacks against it.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 172 of 182 (104384)
04-30-2004 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by NosyNed
12-25-2003 8:51 PM


Re: Similarities
Would you mind offering some evidence for the contents of this post ?
Or is it all subjective opinion ?

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 173 of 182 (104388)
04-30-2004 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by crashfrog
12-26-2003 2:35 AM


Fudie Muslims and their murderous cowardly acts - you call that courage ?
This dilutes the word and genuine acts thereof.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 174 of 182 (104389)
04-30-2004 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Rrhain
12-26-2003 9:30 AM


Got anymore examples besides two heretics. Your bias is in full throttle.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 175 of 182 (104393)
04-30-2004 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Rrhain
12-26-2003 2:46 PM


This person perfectly epitomizes the classic prove anything you want with scripture.
Out of context quote mining extreme. Atheists like whatever your name is demonstrate to be totally devoid of understanding or allegiance to truth, stripped of all God sense and proving it.

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NosyNed
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Message 176 of 182 (104394)
04-30-2004 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by Cold Foreign Object
04-30-2004 7:24 PM


Re: Similarities
It's pretty much my opinion.

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jar
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Message 177 of 182 (104401)
04-30-2004 7:50 PM


I hate seing these threads get out of hand, particularly since the God of the Jews, the God of the Christians and the God of the Muslims are all the same GOD.
Here is a link to a post that a friend of mine wrote who happens to be Muslim and was also concerned because so many people simply mined and missinterpreted the Koran.
Over time, religion has been used and abused by almost every people in the world. From the Nazis using Christianity as an excuse for the horrors they commit, to Fundamentalist Muslims misusing religion today, to the Irish, the horrors of the Reformation, the Crusades and nearly every other sad event in history, religion has so often been the means of inflaming the masses.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

  
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 178 of 182 (104402)
04-30-2004 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by crashfrog
12-29-2003 2:32 AM


Crashfrog, who have christian fundies killed ? Are all cf's indicted because of a few who have murdered doctors ?
Correlate rationally the examples you provide with the slaughter Muslims do everyday in Palestine alone.
To not differentiate between christian and muslim fundies and their acts demonstrates you have zero objectivety and integrity. You are hating and probably admit it. This then means hating is not wrong, just depends on the object. Everyone hates regardless of what they claim even the pundits of political correctness - they hate the personages behind the views they have successfully banned.

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crashfrog
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Message 179 of 182 (104403)
04-30-2004 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by Cold Foreign Object
04-30-2004 7:38 PM


This person perfectly epitomizes the classic prove anything you want with scripture.
No, it would be better to say that you can prove a bunch of things Willowtree doesn't like with scripture.
I guess I don't find that relevant. Maybe the reason you can prove anything with the Bible is because the Bible proves absolutely nothing.

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crashfrog
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Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 180 of 182 (104405)
04-30-2004 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Cold Foreign Object
04-30-2004 7:51 PM


Are all cf's indicted because of a few who have murdered doctors ?
Did I imply that they were? Of course I didn't.
What I was saying is that, if you're going to indict one group (Muslims) for the actions of a minority of their members, you have to play by the same rules for every group - you have to do it for Christians, too. There's plenty of psycho Christian murderers.
Reasonable people know that there's no group so good that you can't find a few sickos in the ranks, and we don't hold it against the group. But people like Buz don't get that, I guess. They're happy to pin the blame for terrorism on all Muslims, not just the terrorist ones - but you won't do the same for any other group.
That's a double standard, and moreover, a sickening act of bigotry.
To not differentiate between christian and muslim fundies and their acts demonstrates you have zero objectivety and integrity.
Of course I differentiate, WT. Read the whole thread before you shoot your mouth off, ok? Honestly.

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