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crashfrog
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Message 31 of 40 (75860)
12-30-2003 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Stephen ben Yeshua
12-30-2003 11:37 AM


Lord, I hate talking to people who write like you. Why is it that when I tease apart the tangled skein of your prose, it turns out that you've said nothing at all?
You started with a not-so-veiled jab at taxation. Now you've replied with something about metaphorical slavery. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that somebody (besides me, right now) mentions The Matrix within 10 posts.

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Stephen ben Yeshua
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Message 32 of 40 (75892)
12-30-2003 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by crashfrog
12-30-2003 5:37 PM


muddy prose
Hey, Crash,
Sorry, I looked back at what I wrote, and needed a minute myself to figure out my point. Which was, Americans think they are free, but act like they are living, as Desmond Morris put it, in a Human Zoo. They not only have to slave away in life, but do so shamefully in delusion. That's why only truth, not politics, sets you free

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Matt Tucker
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Message 33 of 40 (100096)
04-14-2004 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by CygnusX
12-06-2003 1:27 AM


God Changing his mind
If you don't believe in God, then you shouldn't try and defend Him! Not that God needs defending, He can take care of His own problems. 1st, the NT(New Testament)never retracts upon anything said in the OT (Old Testament). Rather, Christ builds upon it and furthers the application. 2nd, HOW THE CRAP DO YOU SEE GOD CHANGING HIS MIND IN THE STORY OF NOAH! God NEVER changes his mind! I am not familiar with a certain "juses" in the Bible, so I'll assume you meant Jesus. As a matter of fact, He did go to Hell. For three days. For your sins. And then he rose again and showed himself to all the people of Jerusalem and his disciples. He sacrificed himself for scum like you and me. Not scum related to monkeys, mind you. Just dead in our sins. The son of God did not, however, go to hell because he "called someone a fool." Jesus, with almighty and perfect wisdom, can call anyone a fool, since he is the son of God, and as such can distinguish perfectly between wisdom and foolishness. Something you can not boast of being able to do.
Matt

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Matt Tucker
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Message 34 of 40 (100097)
04-14-2004 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Rei
12-11-2003 4:59 PM


Re: 3 Problems With Your Post + An Answer
for one who isn't a christian, you sure know a stinking lot about the bible. huh. how'd that happen?
Matt

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crashfrog
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Message 35 of 40 (100151)
04-15-2004 2:51 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Matt Tucker
04-14-2004 10:46 PM


how'd that happen?
Because unlike creationists folks like us actually find out what something really says before we reject it.

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PaulK
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Message 36 of 40 (100162)
04-15-2004 4:01 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Matt Tucker
04-14-2004 10:44 PM


Re: God Changing his mind
According to the Bible God has, on occasion, changed his mind.
You can try Exodus 32:7-14 for an example.
(Ex 32:14 "So the LORD changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people." NASB).

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 37 of 40 (100304)
04-15-2004 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Matt Tucker
04-14-2004 10:44 PM


Re: God Changing his mind
Hey Matt :
Hezekiah sure got God to change His mind....so did Moses.
I think you are a Calvinist - right ?
Just curious ?
[This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 04-15-2004]

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MannyB
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Message 38 of 40 (100344)
04-16-2004 4:17 AM


The various inconsistencies in the Bible should only be a problem for the literalist Christians. A non-literalist can make use of interpretation. That interpretation can be made by biblical scholors or respected church leaders/elders.
Most Christians are members of Churches that have non-literalist interpretation of the Bible. I imagine it is a lot easier to keep your faith (or at least feel that its not being challenged) if you not always having to argue with Scientists in order to defend the Holy Testament.
In this particular instance, the interpretationists (is that a real word? ) can conlude that the OT was written when slavery was standard operating procedure and simply lays out rules for treating your slaves/servants well. However for those who follow a literalist view of the bible the only logical conclusion for them is that slavery as an institution is tacitly condoned by God.
<---------- atheist

  
Yaro
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Message 39 of 40 (100405)
04-16-2004 2:35 PM


Kinda like the matrix....

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1467 days)
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 40 of 40 (100406)
04-16-2004 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Yaro
04-16-2004 2:35 PM


Goddamit!

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