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Author Topic:   Dinosaurs and the reduced felt effect of gravity
TechnoCore
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Message 75 of 121 (101168)
04-20-2004 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by redwolf
04-19-2004 4:42 PM


Re: When did it change? how old the rock?
There are some implications when scaling creatures you haven't thought of. When you scale something up, the mass increases faster than the area. Mass defines load, and area will define the load bearing ability.
When load increases faster than load bearing ability, we have a problem! If you scale up a building by 10 times, it will get 1000 times heavier but it will only get 100 times stronger.
Lets see what happens if we double the size of a human ?
Mass scales with the cube of the linear dimensions:
Doubling his size will also make him 8 times heavier.
Lifting power scales with the square of linear dimension.
This means that the man above will be 4 times stronger than before, but weigh 8 times more, making him only half as strong, not stronger as you stated. (He will barely be able to stand)
The surface area to mass ratio scales with the inverse of the linear dimension. He will have real big problems trying to get rid of body heat. He'll die from a feaver within minutes.
The cross-section of the blood vessels will roughly scale with the square of linear dimension. This means that 4 times as much blood can be pumped through the body, but there are 8 times as many cells to feed. So only half of them can be fed. And on top of that the blood-pressure will be halved since the heart is a muscle. It won't be able to pump blood up to the brain.
The bones in the body will roughly scale with the square of linear dimension... you get the idea... they will break more easily.
So in order to scale something up, you need to construct it in a complete different way.

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TechnoCore
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Message 88 of 121 (101314)
04-20-2004 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by redwolf
04-20-2004 1:45 PM


Re: When did it change? how old the rock?
Either that, or do it in a world where gravity is less of a problem. That's the conclusion most of the people studying the problem are coming to at present.
True. But my post was adressing your claim that a larger human would be stronger, which I showed you was not the case.
You don't seem to realise that no matter how little you change one of the natural constants, (such as gravity) it will have huge and dire consequenses for every living beeing.
Here are some problems you get with less gravity:
The temperature inside the core of the sun never reaches high enough for fusion of hydrogen. (The sun never lits).
If there is enough gravity for fusion reactions, the size of the sun would be considerable larger. Gravity won't be able to counter the pressure from the fusion-reactions in the core of the sun.
Also the solar-wind could rip earth's atmosphere away, just like it has done on mars. Since earth's weak gravity won't be able to hold its gases.
There will be almost no tidal-waves due to earth-moon attraction is so weak. Formation of every natural force will work differently. You can see this in soldified molten rocks and sediments. They would not be layered as predicted and observed now. The oceans would have no or little oxygen in the depths, (Less mixing of cold and warm water)Leads to Asphyxation of fish and plants. Bla bla bla i can go on forever. But that seems a bit of a waste of my precious time.
My preeeeecious! errr.
Mind the spelling, im tired.

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TechnoCore
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Message 103 of 121 (101951)
04-22-2004 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by redwolf
04-20-2004 9:07 PM


Re: When did it change? how old the rock?
Sorry, They've been found.
Try this:
The research, at the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory, near Sudbury, Ontario, demonstrated conclusively that there is no "solar neutrino deficit"
http://www.physics.ubc.ca/...snew/washingtonpost_020421.html
Even AiG acknowledge that the neutrinos has been found and that the argument no longer works.

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