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GodIsJustPretend
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Message 2 of 4 (1036)
12-20-2001 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Retro Crono
12-20-2001 11:57 AM


"Going by the evolutionary time line, the bee evolved 110 million years before the first flower. Can this be possible?"
If there were no angiosperms around when bees first appeared on the scene, which seems likely given recent findings, then the early bees or protobees probably survived on sweet exudates from non-flowering plants and pollen and spores from ferns, cycads and other ancient plants. It's not complicated.
"There are countless examples which show life needs a precise balance to exist, all working on cyclic unison. For something to evolve before something else evolves is just impossible."
You are kinda sorta right and mostly wrong. For example...look at Rhagoletis flies...they utilized hawthorne trees before apples were introduced...now they use both. In other words, Rhagoletis was around, and doing just fine, thank you, long before apple trees were on the scene. There are countless other examples of changes between insects and their plant hosts...for example, yucca moths. My point is, you are correct in that organisms are remarkably adapted to their way of life, and remarkably dependent on one another...however when one of two organisms that are co-dependent goes extinct for some reason, does that always mean the other goes extinct? The answer is no...the organism that remains may adapt to live on its own, form relationship(s) with other extant organisms, etc.
"All the scientific evidence points to that life had to have come about all at once, amounting the evolution theory to an entire impossibility. If everything had to have come about at once then there was obviously some outside interference, it's pretty obvious we have a creator."
I don't even know where to start here...your claim, of course, gets at the heart of what this entire forum is about! I am a working evolutionary biologist, however, and can definitively state that you are very much unambiguously incorrect. The amount of scientific evidence that supports evolutionary theory is simply overwhelming, to say the least. I firmly believe that anyone that dismisses evolutionary theory as being incorrect, is just plain not aware of the facts. As Dobzhansky said..."nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution." That rings true today as it did half a century ago. Evidence from a huge array of disciplines all support evolutionary theory...genetics, cell biology, geology, paleobiology, ecology, embryology, chemistry, behavioral ecology, etc. People can argue over the validity of small details all they want (whether one hypothesis over another is the best way to explain the data, etc....that is, in fact, what evolutionary biologists do for a living!!!)...questioning whether evolution occurs however is just plain silly.

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