Wells' Icons of Evolution - Peppered Moths

The pepper moth issue is NOT where they rest on trees and not if it is an example of natural selection. What is needed is data showing that random mutations culled by NS led to the variations. Also the bottom line is that peppered or not it is still a moth.

Percy, From all of my discussions with evolutionists (not counting this thread) and Creationists, no one disgrees that the moth story is an example of natural selection. But NS alone can't account for any change. And as for NS a Creationist named Ed Blythe wrote about it many years before Darwin did...All I was trying to do with my post is to clarify the position of Creationists on this moth issue.

Well I don't doubt that speciation occurs. Creationists since the time of Karl von Linne knew that the Created Kind was at least at the Genus level (Linne being a Creationist). However it could be that the definition of species is somewhat ambiguous... (OK, OK a new thread)As far as the moths and NS I don't see where it wouldn't be an example of that. The environment changed and when it changed those organisms better suited to that new environment thrived (and became the majority) and those that thrived in the old environment were now the minority. Looks like I will have to go back and read that chapter in "Icons..." again to see what Wells really says. I'll be back...

http://www.arn.org/docs/wells/jw_pepmoth.htmIt looks like all Wells is saying that IF this story is an Icon of evolution scientists had better get the conclusion straight.