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jar
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Message 16 of 112 (105609)
05-05-2004 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Denesha
05-05-2004 3:06 PM


Re: false extinctions?
Hi Denesha.
Sorry but I don't understand your questions. Go easy on me cause I'm old and slow (or overly evolved perhaps).
I would like to have comments on the fact that "evidences" of dinosaur/human couple exits but I never heard about "evidences" of Trilobite/human or Belemnites/human ect...
What do you mean dinosaur/human couples?
As a child I used to play with the trilobites closest living relative, and we are just really starting to study them with a really serious nature.
As to Belemnites, Martha Stewart has suggested that Calamara rings in a tomato bisque is the perfect snack food after a bris.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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nator
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Message 17 of 112 (105612)
05-05-2004 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Wertbag
04-04-2004 9:42 PM


"?Look at the behemoth, which I made along with you and which feed on grass like an ox. What strength he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly! His tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are close-knit. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron. He ranks first among the works of God...? Job 40:15-19
Some people say that this description is of an elephant or a hippopotamus, but they do not have tails like the thick, massive trunks of cedar trees!"
The description doesn't say its tail is the size of a cedar tree, just that is sways like one. Matches an elephant quite well...
Actually, the word "tail" in this context is a pseudonym for "penis".
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nator
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Message 18 of 112 (105616)
05-05-2004 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by almeyda
05-05-2004 2:05 PM


Re: ...
quote:
The Flood remember? The flood did the whole quick burial fossil thing.And kept them mineralized.It fits within the 6,000-10,000 yr framework...
So, if the flood buried all of the fossils who we see them today, then why is it that we never see flowering plants below a certain layer?
Why don't we see, say, elephants and triceratops in the same layer, because they are roughly the same size and density?
quote:
No because Evolution is a theory remember not fact.
Yes, just like the Germ Theory of Disease, the Atomic Theory of Mattter, and the Theory of a Heliocentric Solar System are all scientific theories.
Theories are products of facts...theories are explanatory frameworks that scientists use to explain why the facts appear as they do.
Scientists didn't start with the Theory of Evolution, the facts they saw in nature led them to develop and accept the ToE as the best explanation for those facts.
The thousands and thousands of specific predictions that the theory inspired have been borne out, including the very important one of genetic trees of life matching amazingly well with the morphologic trees of life.
Remember, Darwin and his contemporaries didn't know anything about DNA.
quote:
And although alot of it is science..Another bunch of it is frameworks,ideologys,interpretations,presuppositions etc..
Can you please explain which parts of science are not scientific?
Be specific.

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Denesha
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Message 19 of 112 (105621)
05-05-2004 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by nator
05-05-2004 3:31 PM


Hi Schraf,
Oh please not you. Job's hallucinations again!
Make sure that I appreciate the delicacity of your interpretation.
I give up,
Denesha

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JonF
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Message 20 of 112 (105622)
05-05-2004 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Denesha
05-05-2004 3:06 PM


Re: false extinctions?
I never heard about "evidences" of Trilobite/human or Belemnites/human ect
Well, you can count me in as one who doesn't know what a belemnite is ... ah, "A cone-shaped, fossilized internal shell of any of an extinct genus of cephalopods related to the cuttlefish.".
However, you have something to learn too!
The somewhat famous "Meister print" is allegedly a print of a sandalled human food squashing a trilobite. See The Meister Print with Trilobit and any of many other creationist sites. See The "Meister Print": An Alleged Human Sandal Print from Utah for a rational explanation. The trilobite is real, tha sandal print is no such thing.

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JonF
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Message 21 of 112 (105624)
05-05-2004 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by almeyda
05-05-2004 2:05 PM


Re: ...
almeyda: No comment on the dinosaur "blood" and "marow"? Where did you hear that? Is a source that tells lies trustworthy?
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Denesha
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Message 22 of 112 (105636)
05-05-2004 4:46 PM
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05-05-2004 4:15 PM


Re: false extinctions?
JonF,
I presume that you believe me to be a naive person?
Moroccan fake fossil artists work better than that.
This picture have no scientific value, but indeed, I've learned something interesting this evening.
Well done.
Denesha

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Bonobojones
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Message 23 of 112 (105737)
05-05-2004 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by jar
05-05-2004 1:17 PM


Re: ...
Clavinist!!!LOL

Reunite Gondwana!

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Cthulhu
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Message 24 of 112 (105743)
05-05-2004 9:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by cloud_strife
04-03-2004 3:48 PM


Of course dinosaurs are still alive today. I ate part of one about an hour ago. It tasted just like chicken.

Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
Proudly attempting to Google-Bomb Kent "The Idiot" Hovind's website
Idiot

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cloud_strife
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Message 25 of 112 (105806)
05-06-2004 3:07 AM


hehehe...I was gonna comment on that...but then I realised it was a joke.
good one.

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cloud_strife
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Message 26 of 112 (105807)
05-06-2004 3:12 AM


How do they do that?
What type of dating method do they use to get the ages of dinosaur bones??

  
Saviourmachine
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Message 27 of 112 (105846)
05-06-2004 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
05-05-2004 2:11 PM


Naturalistic
I spent almost a year in southern hemisphere and have tried to discover the Southern Cross. In Brasil they have their own cross, I guess, it's also painted on their flag, but I couldn't discern a real cross in those stars. So, I'm not sure if the Southern Cross exists, even while I've been as far as Tierra del Fuego.
Probably you've all seen this kind of evidence. Personally, I like the 'Nile Mosaic of Palestrina' and the Apatasaurus from an Mesopotamian cylinder seal as you can see here. Why have this artists been so 'naturalistic' and not a little bit more creative? Where could the fire concept come from?

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almeyda
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Message 28 of 112 (105851)
05-06-2004 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by JonF
05-05-2004 4:18 PM


Re: ...
AiG..They never lie..But maybe some of you think they do though

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MarkAustin
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Message 29 of 112 (105852)
05-06-2004 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by almeyda
05-05-2004 2:05 PM


quote:
No because Evolution is a theory remember not fact
The "just a theory" arguement again.
I've lost count of the number of times that this has been explained, but here goes again.
In common parlance, a theory is a guess, and approximation. However, in science it has a much stronger meaning. A theory in science is an argument based on observed facts, that explains the facts, and makes predictions based on the observed facts and the conclusions of the thory. Further, in order to be accepted as a thory, all those predictions capable of being observed must be true. A theory is the best-established explanation of the facts available. Theories do not grow up and become facts. All theories in science are tentative in that the next fact to be discovered may cast doubt on or disprove them. However, neo-Darwinism is one of the best established theories in science, and is confirmed by multiple independent facts.
The word scientists use for an unconfirmed guess is hypothesis.
Bear this in mind.
An unconfirmed guess as solution is a hypothesis.
The best available scientific solution is a theory.
However, in one way evolution is a fact. There is no other credible interpretation of the available evidence than that, by some unspecified means, life on earth has evolved from a common ancestor. See 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution

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JonF
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Message 30 of 112 (105887)
05-06-2004 10:27 AM
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05-06-2004 7:50 AM


Re: ...
AiG..They never lie..But maybe some of you think they do though
In this case they didn't lie; you did. You took the info that AIG posted and created a false fantasy from it. Your source for your claims is your overactive imagination.
AIG never claimed that dinosaur blood cells have been found. AIG never claimed that dinosaur marrow has been found. They wrote several articles which discuss the scientific findings in a manner that strongly suggests those things, but they never actually made those claims.

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