Does teaching of evolution cause social decay?

The reason we shouldnt listen to any other institution is because none of them can even compare to the credentials of the Bible . There is no view,opinion,religion,literature which has predicted the future hundreds of times without mistakes . In fact there is not even one clear fullfilled prophecy .Which "Religion" can give similar credentials to this?...UNITY- Written by 40 or so men, most of which did not know each other, several continents, over a period of 1600yrs, over 40 generations, Authors from all walks of life scholars, peasants, fisherman, written in times of peace and of war , others in joy others in despair, written in 3 languages, hundreds of subjects were written about, And they all came to together to make a perfect book without error or contradiction.This same book went on to be the foundation of law,morality and meaning of life (This gives proof that God was guiding these men to write his words)PROPHECY-The Bible was orginally and continues to be the only volume written by man or group of men which fullfilled written prophecy to individual nations, To Israel , to all people of the earth , To certain Cities , And a huge amount of the coming the Messiah. God challenges other religions to prove that they are the way. And to this day no book in the world has correctly foretold the future hundreds of times without mistakes.Buddha,Hindu,Muslims do not have any contained writings of a fullfilled prophecy.(This is good evidence that there is a greater mind than man with guided the writings of the book)SCIENCE-Scientific information that people only discovered recently or centuries after..Everything from the earth is round(Isaiah 40:22),earch is suspended in space without support (Job 26:7)etc etc..The list literally goes on and on..(The Bible is only at Conflicts with Evolution,But remember Evolution is the science of Humanist..Not Science in general.Historical science is very different to practical science we see everyday..Historical is based on presuppositions,frameworks etc..A Creationists and Evolutionists are both scientist.ARCHAEOLOGY-Archaelogoy discoveries have confirmed the Bibles historical accuracy.In fact it was quite possible the first and earliest writings of mankind (Showing the source of the earth right to the end).All Jewish, Israeli history is all confirmed in the Bible.This of course gives proof that the things in the Bible did happen . Mr John Warwick Montgomery said " To be skeptical of the texts in the New Testament is to allow all of classical antiquity to slip into obscurity, for no document of the anicent period are as well attested bibliographically as the New Testament.

Like youve looked..It is a fact that it has predicted the future hundreds of times over. It is an Historical document. And you cant deny it no matter what crap you come up withThe Bible has no contradictions or errors. And to make sure everyone plz bombard the thread with the most damaging contradictions (Not taken out of context of course)Yes it is the foundation of law. Keep in mind that it spans 2000yrs the book. Its got things from the beginning of civilization. Its just todays world that rejects the authenticity of the BibleThe relevance is that it had things before there werent discovered. This is all you people talk about evolution/science,evolution/science well im here telling you that the Bible contained science written before it was founded.Plz dont try to say Creationists are not scientists. It really is getting pathetic. If that Frogguy i talk to hasnt realised that Creation is science also well then this is all pretty hopelesslol omg The Bible isnt confirmed by archaeaology. Your really messed up jack.This message has been edited by almeyda, 05-06-2004 08:24 AM

Have you got one other source besides Nostradamus disputed prophecy?..There is always the chance of luck. But that blows away when you realise how many times in a row the Bible did itThe rest of your post is kinda just rambling. Anyway no im not trying to indoctrinate you into my cult. Im trying to show you that truth does exist and its in the only true Gods book The Bible because it has the facts and crendentials far beyond every other thing in the entier galaxy.

I never called it fact..That does not mean its not science. Evolution is not fact yet you call that science? They are both therefore belief systems. A belief system is a religion. So it is sheer logic that it is the science of one religion vs the science of other. I accept anyones opinion but this must accepted because it is common sense. The ONLY! difference is that one has something to base it on. And Evolutionists do not. That is the only difference between the two. They both involve scientist working in labs doing there experiments. Of course they both involved interpretation to fit your "belief system" right?. Naturally you should agree but again ill take in whatever your response is. And yes Genesis cannot be proven because the flood destroyed it. But luckily the rest of it can and it contains prophecys,and its a historical document, That i guess we will discuss later in the Bible forum.

PAUL K - I wouldnt call that a contradiction. It may well make God out to be evil or whatever but it doesnt disprove the Bible. God has brought wrath & judgement many times & will again. Its hard to explain to the non-believer why his holiness demands judgement & punishment. It is really a whole other topicPAUL K - This Jeremiah one was also taken out of context. The lord blesses those who obey him. He also says those who repent of the old ways will be saved for the old things are forgotten come all things new. And this is empasized in verse 8 "If that nation against whom i have pronounced,turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that i thought to do unto them" , more over again if they turn from his word well they will suffer judgement " If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then i will repent of the good, wherewith i said i would benefit them"

Umm no actually Creation scientist are just like any other scientist there really is no difference except whatever evidence they find they must fit it into there framework. Both Evolutionists & Creationists do this. And if it doesnt fit well then that dont accept it, Yes both scientist do. Thats all. Its not complicatedThis message has been edited by almeyda, 05-06-2004 10:46 AM

I answered the first one. I said his holiness demands judgment & punishmentNo i dont agree. It is not a failed prophecy. All God was expressing was that peace with God will bring his love and vice versa. Considering you guys still dont admit Creationists are scientist when they really are and you guys expect me to accept this little thing like this? This is easily explainable. It isnt strong enough to officially conclude this is a failed prophecy. It wasnt even a prophecy he was yelling at what is to come through what the consequences of obeying and disobeying are.

Lets end it here in respect for the thread main topic...(Very quickly though yes i think his a murderer,Ill need to study that passage more thoughly though, The problem i feel is the way your trying to squeeze this contradictions as big deals when its just the way they were written that makes them seen contradictive but not when read and understood in context.Nothing was predicted in the speech besides a danger of disobedience and obediance respectively,Anyway lets leave it for now...)

I understand what your trying to say and ive said it before it matters on what your basing your philosophy on. The Bible wins hands down. Ive already given the proof and it does make the Bible stand out. More over again its the only other belief that can challenge Evolution surely it must have something going for it or it would not have been able to succeed at any degree against the mighty Evolutionists.

Ok lets see..As for that Jeremiah one no there is no contradiction. Taken out of context i wont accept it. Im not one to reject every single one because of my faith. I became a Christian early this year because the evidence i found not because i was born into this nothing like that. Im open but that one is not a contradiction or error. As for the murderer one well you got me. Atm i still trust Gods word but i will need time to study this as i have never read that passage before. Thx for the challenge...Your racism remark well i think Evolution has alot to do with it because evolution teaches different Races are at different stages etc. Hitler thought German were superior to the rest etc. But this is not logical in a Biblical view as we all descended from the same two people. Well the word God is the Bible and as to who interprets well i guess thats why it never worked. But we arent in any much of a better state. Now we are in a meaningless existence an even less standard of morals. Like i said it matters on which ones the truth. Not on our own opinions..Once again the battle rages onThis message has been edited by almeyda, 05-06-2004 11:51 AM

The world is being indoctrinated in anti-Christian morality. Once conservative views of Christian morality were the norm. Today many who hold these views do not only get riduculed but are increasingly being considered the enemy. Things that were once unacceptable are now acceptable.How many abortions happen a year nowaydays? 1.5 million through abortion in America alone?. This was unacceptable in past generations.Homosexuality/sexually immorality is now acceptable as sexual liberation but what do we have for it? A aids epidemic,teenage pregnancy etc.Crime is always on a rise,Teenage gang problems,gun warfare,anti-social behaviour. Scientist who no longer believe in God now have invented "scientific answers" To mankinds problems. Well we descended from apes so we cant be blamed for what man does.Homosexuality,Criminals, even pedaphiles have now got heritory problems etc. At the moment of course society would not consider pedaphilia acceptable however it wasnt very long ago that homosexuality was accepted either!There is so much more thats wrong with society today. The anti-god element is rising everyday as more and more people are indoctrinated into Evolution and a no God world. Evolution as a foundation to society is what creates further problems. People no longer have an absolute authority just the majoritys opinion and there own.But why do i blame evolution for it? Well once we take out the Bible as our foundation for our thinking and replace it with human opinion, Then whatever the majority of people consider legitimate becomes legal. The more people accept the idea that man determines truth and not God. The the more society will reject absolutes of God and replace these with rules that allow man to express his sinful nature.The Bible clearly warns that mans heart is decietful & tends to go for that which is bad than which is good (Romans 3:10). When nations decriminilize abortion,homsexuality,euthanasia, and other abominations then laws eventually arise to make it a criminal act to speak out against such things.This anti-God view is led by Humanistic philsophy,founded in Evolutionary principles. Humanists will then seek and presently do suppress all opposition from those who adhere to the plain teaching of the Bible. To defeat the plain and pure teaching of the Bible Evolutionists & Humanists call for taking children from an early age and indoctrinating them into what they call "conventional science" which is nothing more than Atheistic Evolutionary philosophy.THE CHASM IS WIDENING!EVOLUTION : Morality dictated by majority opinionCREATION : Absolute rules for life set by Creator edited to add paragraph breaks, no changes made to spelling, grammar, or spacing issues. Almeyda may want to work on fixing some of these other problems - The Queen This message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 05-07-2004 12:18 AM

I read the guidelines but i dont understand what you mean? Jar asked me a question so i answered it..What am i doing thats different to other people? Yes i know i refer to the Bible but its a Creation (Bible) vs Evolution forum?This message has been edited by almeyda, 05-07-2004 12:42 AM

Sorry for the lack of sources. I now see why you guys need them now. I can see all what i said happening all around me. Maybe its because im viewing the world through a Biblical perspective. But i can see society heading downhill as they turn there backs on God. I dont have a FBI statistic to back this up. So you have to take it as just my opinion.

No my worldview isnt changing just yet. I still believe the Bible is Gods word and until i get proved otherwise i wont change. Evolution doesnt disprove it because its just an Evolutionists interpretation of the facts.

But want you dont realise is that there are thousands of biologists,physists,geologists etc that arent Evolutionsts. Evolution is not a neccessity. You can do an experiment if you dont believe billions of yrs ago nothing became everything. Evolution is just a theory and although the mainstream of science may believe evolution as fact,In fact it is and ive said this hundreds of times made up of ideologies,assumtions,presuppositions,frameworks,opinions. Peer pressure,ignorance,pride or some sin problem is the only factor that determines what the scientist belives in. Others are blinded into thinking this is science and the Bible is just a book of make believe stories. Creationists are living proof one does not need Evolution to perform science. What one does need is a framework or an idea of what may have happened, then one can start fitting the evidence to your specific ideology.