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You're hardly in a position to know what they have or haven't done with their religion, don't you think? Unless you're a mind reader or something? You'd have to ask them to be sure, but my guess is, they believe that God is subtle, like it says he is in the Bible, and that he works through other means and not directly, like it says he does in the Bible. In other words, God is the soverign creator of the universe in which evolution occurs, like it says he is in the Bible. That's not a statement of evolution, nor is it one that is implied by evolution being true. Naturalism isn't the view that the supernatural doesn't exist. It's the view that natural events are best described as being caused by natural phenomena.That has nothing to do with the existence of the supernatural. The supernatural, by definition, is beyond science's power to say whether or not it exists.

Look, if all you're going to do is say "I've got all this evidence for creationism" and then, when asked for it, say "I can't support it but you should read AiG", then a lot of us wish you wouldn't post at all.Do you honestly believe that we've never been to the AiG website? That it's new information to us? Hell, Almeyda, we read that website for laughs every weekend around my house. It's hilarious to us how they attempt to misinform and spread such obvious untruths.They're going to find it a little less funny around my house when I tell them that there's people like you, however, who accept all their garbage without question.Almeyda, none of what you've presented is new to us. It's all the same tired arguments we've seen refuted again and again. It's amazing that you thought AiG was some kind of big secret that we hadn't seen.Here, why don't you check out a site called "No Answers in Genesis" and examine it with an open mind for once? Account Suspended

I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood me. I said read it "with an open mind", not "with your Creation-brand anti-scientific blinders on."This is why creationism isn't a science. Arguments you can't refute are just propaganda to you. It doesn't matter to you what the evidence says - you've already made up your mind, and anyone who disagrees with you is automatically wrong.Closing your eyes and sticking your fingers in your ears isn't going to get you very far around here.

I disproved this already, remember? A lot of the geology that supports the evolutionary model was developed in the 1800's by creationists. We accept many of their conclusions to this day. If you wanted I'm sure you could dig up a list of scientific advances from purported creationists, all accepted by evolutionists.Shouting at me isn't going to change the fact that it's only creationists who reject evidence because it doesn't fit their conclusions. Not everybody's like you, Almeyda. Some of us make up our minds based on evidence, not on what we want to believe. It is a fact. It's also a theory.That evolution happened - that allele frequencies changed over time to result in the species we see today - is a fact. It's absolutely true.The model that describes how that happened is a theory.It's like gravity. If you drop a stone from a building, it hits the ground. That's absolute fact. But the math - the model - that describes the changing position of the stone over time is a theory.Evolution is both fact and theory.

Ever watch that TV show, "CSI"? Maybe they don't have it in Australia, but it's one of those shows where scientists and police solve crimes based on evidence - a process called "forensics."Almeyda, across the world police put people in jail - murderers and rapists - based on what scientists learn about the past. If scientific opinion about the past is enough to impress a judge, convince a jury, and put a criminal behind bars for good, why isn't it enough for you?Somehow, I suspect you have no problem with the practice of criminal forensics, because it keeps your neighborhood safe. But apply techniques that are absolutely the same to go a little farther in the past, and suddenly it's not good enough for you.You've got a double standard, Almeyda, because you refuse to consider any evidence that might conflict with your beliefs.