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Topic: Can god heal the sick?
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MonkeyBoy
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Re: Chapter and verse, please
Your entire post ASSUMES that God loves everyone. Yes it does. I thought that was the whole point of redemption. The god that I believe in does love everyone. That is why I do not believe that god was accurately portrayed in the bible.
Don't trifle with God. He may give up on you - His love is not a doormat. The god I believe in loves us unconditionally. So, you and I differ in a lot of ways.
Quite the contrary, God will court a person and give them chance after chance, but the risk of rejecting God one too many times is that He will cease hounding you. Do you believe that god "hounded" you? I never felt hounded at all. That seems very sad.
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Cold Foreign Object 
Suspended Member (Idle past 3074 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: 11-21-2003
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Message 47 of 64 (109078)
05-18-2004 4:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by MonkeyBoy
05-18-2004 4:21 PM
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Re: Chapter and verse, please
"hounding"....."hound" is me borrowing from poetry. God is called the "Hound of heaven".....it is complimentary....like a mother who hounds after her kids. Come on Monkey must I explain every little thing !?!?
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MonkeyBoy
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Chapter and verse, please
Come on Monkey must I explain every little thing !?!? Lol, no not every little thing, I have just never heard of god being referred to as the Hound of Heaven! BTW, do you like my new avatar?
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 504 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 49 of 64 (109087)
05-18-2004 4:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by MonkeyBoy
05-18-2004 4:37 PM
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Re: Chapter and verse, please
the monkey writes: BTW, do you like my new avatar?
You look like you're about to walk up to somebody and stab him in the back.
The Laminator
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MonkeyBoy
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Photogenic? I think not
Yes, I was not expecting it; One....Two....SNAP!!
D'oh!
I'll post one of me in the 80's, when I was 16.
It's very chessy, bring your own crackers..
Don't say I didn't warn you!
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Sylas
Member (Idle past 5287 days) Posts: 766 From: Newcastle, Australia Joined: 11-17-2002
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Message 51 of 64 (109099)
05-18-2004 5:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by MonkeyBoy
05-18-2004 4:37 PM
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The Hound of Heaven
Going a little off topic in this thread might be a good thing, given the levels of angst.
MonkeyBoy writes: ... I have just never heard of god being referred to as the Hound of Heaven! It is a reference to a very famous and haunting poem, by Francis Thompson (1859-1907). The poem is in first person, describing how the poet flees from God, but is pursued and finds in the end that the escape he seeks is the same as the invincible love that pursues him.
The Hound of HeavenI fled Him, down the nights and down the days;
I fled Him, down the arches of the years;
I fled Him, down the labyrinthine ways
Of my own mind; and in the mist of tears
I hid from Him, and under running laughter.
Up vistaed hopes I sped;
And shot, precipitated,
Adown Titanic glooms of chasmed fears,
From those strong Feet that followed, followed after.
But with unhurrying chase,
And unperturbd pace,
Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,
They beat - and a Voice beat
More instant than the Feet -
"All things betray thee, who betrayest Me." That is only the first verse; the rest is available in the link. This message has been edited by Sylas, 05-18-2004 04:30 PM
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MonkeyBoy
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Message 52 of 64 (109106)
05-18-2004 6:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 51 by Sylas
05-18-2004 5:30 PM
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Re: The Hound of Heaven
Thanks, Sylas; that was beautiful.
I apologize for displaying any signs of anger, I do know better. I misread WT's post, I thought that he was referring to a verse in the bible.
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Cold Foreign Object
Suspended Member (Idle past 3074 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: 11-21-2003
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Message 53 of 64 (109109)
05-18-2004 6:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by MonkeyBoy
05-18-2004 4:37 PM
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Re: Chapter and verse, please
Yes, it is better. In fact, I withdraw any negative correlation that I made ascribing you with what I interpreted that avatar to mean/indicate.
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Cold Foreign Object
Suspended Member (Idle past 3074 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: 11-21-2003
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Message 54 of 64 (109112)
05-18-2004 6:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 51 by Sylas
05-18-2004 5:30 PM
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Re: The Hound of Heaven
I am truly impressed. Thanks Sylas, this debate needed what you said. We are now even, you owe me nothing for getting you on the fast track to Admin halls. 
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MonkeyBoy
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No problem
No problem, WT. I actually like to see people fight for what they passionately believe in. Just know that those that disagree with you will be just as passionate.
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pinorossipino
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Message 56 of 64 (109258)
05-19-2004 12:19 PM
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i believe
I believe that diseases are a part o God's project.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Re: i believe
I believe that they aren't.
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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4577 days) Posts: 821 From: FOB Taji, Iraq Joined: 04-22-2003
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Message 58 of 64 (109269)
05-19-2004 12:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 57 by mark24
05-19-2004 12:34 PM
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Re: i believe
OH, you TOTALLY TOLD HIM!!! I believe that I know what you're pointing out... that debating at this level is not going to accomplish anything. I also believe that some folks will believe anything if you say it enough times (*cough*saddamhadnukessaddamhadnukessaddamhadnukes*cough*), but that they are rare on this forum.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 59 of 64 (109271)
05-19-2004 12:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 58 by zephyr
05-19-2004 12:44 PM
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Re: i believe
Zephyr,
I believe that I know what you're pointing out... that debating at this level is not going to accomplish anything. Spot on. If belief were evidence....... Mark This message has been edited by mark24, 05-19-2004 11:54 AM
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RingoKid
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Message 60 of 64 (109393)
05-20-2004 5:23 AM
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Reply to: Message 59 by mark24
05-19-2004 12:52 PM
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Re: i believe
belief is evidence of faith... ...and you gotta have it
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