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johnfolton 
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Message 31 of 70 (110054)
05-23-2004 11:35 PM


It is quite interesting that the Word says heaven is Gods throne, it also said: if thou make a nest in the stars the Lord will bring it down. The Word says the fossils are young, we all know evolutionists say the Word is wrong, but interestingly the Russian space station, a nest in the heavens has been brought down, I mean all you see is unmanned, man did exalt himself even saying the eagle has landed, but you don't see men on Mars, on the Moon, what you see is the Shuttle that crashed, you see the Russian Space Station crashing, etc...
kjv Oba 1:4 Though thou exalt [thyself] as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

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Message 38 of 70 (110290)
05-25-2004 1:56 AM
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Gary, I'm not a theologian, suspect there might be more to this verse than mets the eye, suspect we shouldn't get too puffed up, pride cometh before the fall, or something like that, heaven is God's throne, like didn't the babylonians try to build a tower to heaven and God was not pleased, wasn't there something about Petra, and in revelations 6:13, does it not mention the stars of heaven will be cast to the earth, like an untimely fig, is shaken by a mighty wind, etc...
P.S. Is not a star considered something that gives light unto the earth, and is not some satellights seen in the night sky, might these be the stars of heaven, along with space stations, that are cast down to the earth, etc...
kjv Oba 1:4 Though thou exalt [thyself] as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

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Message 41 of 70 (110540)
05-26-2004 12:25 AM
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05-25-2004 10:18 AM


Satans the bad dude!
When the dragon (satan) empowers the beast, you will not have a choice to an atheists, it will be mandatory worship or death, God on the other hand gives you a free will, one wonders how the devil will monitor this mandatory worship, some think it might be the Mark of the Beast, an implanted computer chip, tied to a master computer (the beast), and if your not worshipping the devil, the computer will terminate you, cause its mandatory (kjv revelations 13:15), etc...

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Message 42 of 70 (110542)
05-26-2004 12:31 AM
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05-25-2004 10:11 AM


Jesus did say the birds of the air have nests, but the son of man has no where to lay his head, etc...
P.S. Yes, I believe Jesus is sitting at the right hand of his Father in heaven in the flesh, think it was in Luke that said he was carried up into heaven, etc...

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Message 59 of 70 (110638)
05-26-2004 9:31 AM
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05-26-2004 7:33 AM


Furthermore, do you really think that God is floating in space?
Jesus did say the birds of the air have nests, but the son of man has no where to lay his head, etc...
P.S. Yes, I believe Jesus is sitting at the right hand of his Father in heaven in the flesh, think it was in Luke that said he was carried up into heaven, etc...
The scripture says many will say that he is he, but Jesus when he returns will be like the lightning coming out of the east to the west, because he will be coming out of the heavens, when he comes, etc...
kjv Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
kjv Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
kjv Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
kjv Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Why do we not see any images from Hubble (or other) to support this?
The invisible created the visible, God the Father is a spirit, however The Son the Word, came and became clothed in flesh, now has a physical body, and is sitting aside his Father in Heaven cause Jesus is the Word, he is God, one savior, but he is one, the bridge, so that we can be born of the Spirit, and be one with the Father through the Son, Jesus is the resurrection and the life, he was before the World was, the Father sent him to the earth from heaven, if someone rejects Christ then they are rejecting the Father who sent him. Jesus said it was to our benefit that he return to his Father in heaven, Cause they are one and the Father is Greater than the Son, though when we die, if a Christian our spirit goes up(into heaven), not down(the footstool), to be with our Lord in heaven to behold the glory that was his before the world was, Jesus said not to take us out of the world but to keep us in the world, but when we die to go up to be with him, until the resurrection, those that are worthy in the first resurrection, incorruptible bodies for the thousand year rule, and don't have to worry about the second death when the second resurrection occurs, where everyone else will then be judged, cause God will resurrect all people that has ever lived, to be judged and those that are saved that are written in the lambs book of life, and them that are not will experience a second physical death, as they are cast into the lake of fire, with the false prophet and the beast, and even satan at this point in time will be in the lake of fire, so those that reject Christ will be with their lord which is not Christ, etc... Those that reject the Mark of the Beast cause they are in the Lambs book of life and are killed will be a part of the first resurrection, those that take the Mark of the Beast will be cast in the lake of fire. Then out of heaven will come the New Jerusalem as a jewel out of heaven created by God, and heaven and earth will be made new, no more death, its all about becoming an overcomer in this life through Christ, interestingly the New Jerusalem it says will be over 1,500 miles square, but God controls gravity, it will set down upon the earth, Jesus said in my Fathers house are many mansions, if it was not so I would of told you, I go and prepare a place for you, etc...
kjv Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
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