Where Is Macro-Evolution Occurring

Hello.
As a Christian philosopher, I try to clear up any misconceptions.
I have attended a seminar concerning the ages of rocks and rock layers, and its incoherency with the theory of evolution is of great magnitude. Fossil records show that there are indeed layers upon layers of rocks, but these layers are falsely dated by carbon-14. Carbon-14 has been used to date recent objects such as potato chips, and have found them to be some 1,000 years old. Coincidence? I think not. Furthermore, if the earth were even 250,000 years old, the moon would be embedded in the earth's crust. And for all those who believe in the Big Bang theory...Draw a picture of nothing, and then draw it EXPLODING. Some theory.

Well, the statement made concerning the dating of recently-produced objects, such as chips, was of a general nature, and is meant for things that are most commonly dated, such as rock layers. The earth is not as old as you think. The earth's magnetic field is weakening, and if the earth was billions of years old, there would be no magnetic field. The earth was a product of design, not spontaneous combustion. Where in hell did this "singularity" come from? If the Big Bang did occur, what caused it? How did the gases get there to spread out over the universe? Where can we see "macro-evolution" occurring? Don't even try to discredit my information because I say I'm a philosopher. Well, do you believe there's a God?P.S. A fossilized object is said to have been petrified, and fossils are dated with carbon-14. The common rock is dated with such methods as strontium-rubidium, etc.This message has been edited by TheNewGuy03, 05-30-2004 06:12 PM

That statement was not for you...and what makes you say that I'm wrong? Are you right? It is along the lines of macro-evolution, but the other statements were logical information used to make a POINT, like most other people did on here. Unfortunately, there are those people who like to put out boolsheet to annoy the hell out of people. So...that's all.

God is outside of space and time, so he wasn't CREATED. He's there, and always was there. We have yet to comprehend infinity. (That's why everyone doesn't know where we go when we die.) That's why we humans use time to record our activity on Earth. While God may interact with nature, he doesn't have a place in nature. God is the source of all concepts, such as goodness. How could we have a standard or a concept without a source? He IS everything that exists, including the concept of existence. God isn't some religious boolsheet that someone decided to come up with. PeaceDISCLAIMER: All posts hereafter are responses to other posts.This message has been edited by TheNewGuy03, 05-30-2004 06:38 PM

What I was saying was that dating methods aren't consistent. And Big Bang is still a theory...a man-made idea that people believe to be fact. Don't forget that the thinking of man is fallible... but we have to have a source. A lot of things are laid out in the Bible (don't look at it as just another book). But it is logical to say that the earth isn't that old. Put aside what you've been told and look into things yourself...that's all I ask. Macroevolution is simply mutation. But...reply soon

Do you think before you act? Do you have an idea where you came from? Can you think of another word for "macro-evolution" besides "mutation"? Do YOU know what the hell you're talking about? I don't speak out of ignorance. Believe what you want, but when someone presents something to you, at least analyze it and do some research before calling it crap. Damn, dude.Oh yeah, "location" is simply a word to determine PLACEMENT.This message has been edited by TheNewGuy03, 05-30-2004 07:07 PM

...Try analyzing that little quote at the bottom of your entry. It may help. Keep your eyes open, lad.

Did you know that many scientists were Christians? Isaac Newton, Louis Pasteur...I could go on, but since you don't believe a word I'm saying, and think I'm just mouthing off words that don't have any logical basis, think again. If intelligent design is false, then nearly 2/3 of the population is in complete error. Give me one proof that REFUTES the existence of God, and I'll leave you alone.

Back on topic we are.
If macro-evolution is TRUE, then the entire basis upon which Christians believe is BULLSHIT, because the BIBLE says that the world was CREATED. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen life come out of non-life, and motility out of non-motility. That's completely illogical. You can not witness macro-evolution, simply because there is no large-scale evidence. If the present world took BILLIONS of years (much longer than the life-age of a man, might I add), then it would [logically] take a few more millions to witness even a small change. Don't believe everything people tell you, or even what you have read.Leave no thought unquestioned, and no statement unanalyzed.

Admittedly, not everything in the Bible was meant to be taken literally. However, this segment of Scripture specifically notes that God created the earth in six days. In the Bible, the Hebrew word for "day" nearly always translates to a literal day, so (if you're a Christian), it would be unreasonable to believe it took billions of years to form.This statement is consistent. There is nothing inconsistent about my statement. The dead can not give birth to the living, and what does not move does not produce that which moves.Though creation is also a theory, it has a more consistent basis. Evolution (also a theory) will attempt to make itself work by incorporating tests, some of which are inconclusive or irrelevant.The stratigraphy of the land as it has been dated is out of order. The younger rock layers lie below the older rock layers, and the younger, fresher soil always subsides above the older soil. Something's wrong."Incorrect. You can't witness macro-evolution (& life from non-life is abiogenesis, not macroevolution, by the way) because the time scale is too large. There is large scale evidence."The only evidence used to support macroevolution is polyploidy. This is, quite simply, mutation. There is no, I repeat, NO, evidence of transmutation between species.The very nature of the word "abiogenesis" indicates that is has a beginning. See if that theory works when you die...I would love to see you come back to life.

Do you believe in the preternatural? Then you would understand. I see miracles happen. Perhaps if evolution was true, it was one of these said miracles. Christianity is based around a belief in the ethereal. If all you have is your intellect, then you can not know anything else. If God can do ANYTHING, then He can create the world, rise a man from the dead, and flood the earth at will.

Chiroptera:
Is that sarcasm? Is that for or against evolution? Just wondering.Well, everything that has a beginning has an end...all will be revealed then.And, for that other guy, the six literal days is NOT a farce. Since we Christians believe that God is infinite, omniscient, and omnipotent, then He can create the world in however many days he pleases.Also for that other guy...what is the definition of abiogenesis? Do you think that the first bacterium suddenly became alive?

For the record, the miracle I was speaking of was the miracle of new life. But...that's all.

Well, if the Flood was worldwide, then there would be traces of sediments deposited everywhere. There is the tectonic plate movement, all that. None of it works AGAINST creation, but it has also found a place in evolution. Therefore, this test is inconclusive.This message has been edited by TheNewGuy03, 06-01-2004 02:16 PM

OK. I'll do that. I'm sure something will happen in which I get shoved off of that forum too.