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Author Topic:   A modern object described in ancient texts negates Creation Myth
Edward Teller 
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Message 1 of 117 (112618)
06-03-2004 11:34 AM


The Book with Seven Seals. What type of book was it ?
This is an investigation using the methods explained by Ronald Pegg that show ancient texts describe modern objects.
Revelations 5:5 "behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof"
In the Greek section of Strong's Concordance : Greek word # 975 "book" means a roll.
English word 'roll' comes from Latin 'rota' meaning wheel.
This identifies exactly what type of ancient book was being described - a wheel - and not a scroll or a sheet of papyrus.
In the religious account relating to Revelations 5:5 we are told that a Lion opens this book. But although the Old English translators have made it appear to be this way, they have not used the original word meanings or contexts of some prepositions in the text and have misrepresented the original message being related by John.
Checking the Greek section of Strong's Concordance we find:
Word#..Old Eng..meaning
2400..Behold..Behold [as in look]
3023..the Lion..the Lion,
5607..of..being [don't forget its associated preposition: G-1537]
1537.. .. a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds) - out of
5443..tribe..an offshoot
2455..Juda..(from Hebrew word-3063: celebrated**; from H-3034: to use the hand)
4491..Root..root (as in the place where offshoots sprout, or where something begins)
1138..David..(from H-1732: loving; but from H-1730: to boil: unused root)*
*The Old English meanings of the Hebrew words "Juda" and "David" do not reflect their etymology. For some reason the translators have ignored the context and original meanings of the words from which they were derived.
**Celebrate = to perform a ritual, but the word translated as 'Juda' should also associate the context of using the hand.
The transliteration of the three Hebrew letters that form the word David are"DVD". The vowels have only been added to the Hebrew letters to make it pronouncable easily in English - but this has removed the original meaning, being the abbreviation of digital video disk - a more modern name for a compact disk that contains video presentations (called a CD-Rom by Ronald Pegg).
The original message that John was trying to report in Revelations 5:5 was
Behold the lion being out of an offshoot. To use the hand (in the sense of a ritual). The root of the DVD has prevailed to open the wheel, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
The biblical concept of the "Tree of Knowledge" refers to the Directory Tree of the Windows 3.1 File Manager.
An offshoot (from this tree) = one of the files seen in the window.
The root of the DVD = the root directory of the compact disk.
"Juda" meaning 'to use the hand (in the sense of a ritual)' = using the hand-mouse to click on the file (offshoot) from the root (directory) of the DVD [as seen from the computer's Tree of Knowledge].
The "seven seals" of the "wheel" = the 7 icons from the Map Page of the circular Ancients digital disk.
Behold the lion being out of an offshoot = Behold the Lion icon (as seen from this disk), being out of one of the files [from the root directory of the DVD that was clicked upon by ritually using the hand].
This specific offshoot "root file" is documented in Revelations 7:4 "And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel" = a file with 144,000 bytes of data = the mediterr.exe programme file.
As seen on the computer's screen and associated with the mediterr.exe file is the data 143,442 which means this file takes up 143,442 bytes of disk space. Rounded up to the next thousand derives 144,000.
This confirms that John viewed a CD-Rom / dvd that had seven Heading icons (seals). One of the headings is of a LION.
Upon further investigation it is found that the "Creation sequence" in ancient texts also describe this CD-Rom (dvd), thus negating the religious Creation Myth.
More details may be found at http://www.pphcstudygroup.org.au

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Edward Teller 
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Message 8 of 117 (112903)
06-05-2004 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by crashfrog
06-05-2004 2:43 AM


He didn't understand, that is why he was told
Question asked: "Why would the John writer, presumably ignorant of binary number systems and the idea of binary data storage, care to specify the byte size of a computer file? How would he even understand what that meant?"
John was told (by the time traveller) the numerical value of the highlighted file that made the 'sun-disk' (wheel) operate. This was apparently significant to him as it opened the "sealed book" with seven seals.
You haven't read and viewed the written and visual evidence from the pphcstudygroup's web site - have you. It is therein explained in detail.

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Edward Teller 
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Message 12 of 117 (112908)
06-05-2004 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by crashfrog
06-05-2004 8:29 AM


Don't take my word for it
I am simply letting people know about Mr Pegg's discoveries - and some of the new ones being made using his methods.
The pphc-sg web site provides most of his original written and visual documentation that can be downloaded for FREE.
I have answered your question.
It is not up to me to tell you what to think nor to defend Mr Pegg's claims.
I have examined the presented evidence in full, and have come to a conclusion.
There are several suggestions on the pphc-sg web site as to how to study Mr Pegg's claims, but I can not do the reading for you.
You apparently have not examined the evidence, yet you have come to a preconceived conclusion.
I find human nature fascinating and the reactions to new situations such as being faced with new ideas that conflict with contemporary teachings.
But remember, scholars once knew that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth - but due to examining the evidence presented, the actual truth of these situations were eventually discovered.
Mr Pegg's discoveries have just been released to the public - and may have world-wide consequences as you can imagine if and when they are deemed to be true.

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Edward Teller 
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Message 22 of 117 (113032)
06-06-2004 6:50 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Brian
06-06-2004 6:17 AM


Reply to Brian - DWD or DVD
Hi Brian.
Your questions: "Wasn't the usual spelling of 'David' actually DWD - Do you have references for the Ancient Hebrew spelling of David being DVD?"
In the Greek section of Strong's Concordance : Greek word # 1138 "David" is referenced as coming from the Hebrew. Word reference of H-1732 is given.
In the Hebrew section of Strong's Concordance : Hebrew word # 1732 is "David" .
The transliteration is given as "David" and pronounced syllable by syllable in English as daw-veed.
There are three associated Hebrew letter characters that make up this ancient word. There are two letter "D"s, with the middle character being that for the sixth letter of the Hebrew alphabet.
But this 6th character has both a "W" or "V" English equivalent.
So on one hand, there may be a DWD case made for this form of the ancient word, but the given transliteration is DVD and the word is pronounced in English as DAVID (daw-veed).
I quote Strong's Concordance because it has been the standard Bible concordance for pastors, scholars, and laypersons for over a century. If they have got it wrong, then all Bibles and their associated interpretations since 1611 AD will need to be amended.
I am not familiar with your two references, but as the sixth letter of the Hebrew character system can be either W or V, then the BYTDWD you cite could also be written (in English) as BYTDVD.
The person(s) who wrote the report(s) about the two Steles may have had a preference to using an English W instead of a V.
I hope I have fully answered your two questions.
YF,
Edward
PS More in depth answers to previous questions to follow later in the week.

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