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Author Topic:   A modern object described in ancient texts negates Creation Myth
jar
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Message 2 of 117 (112635)
06-03-2004 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Edward Teller
06-03-2004 11:34 AM


Too, too funny.
A DVD that held less information than a 5 1/4" Double-sided (not even double-density) floppy disk.
Very persuasive.

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Message 13 of 117 (112910)
06-05-2004 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Edward Teller
06-05-2004 9:56 AM


Re: Don't take my word for it
I assume that you started this thread because you wanted to interest others in viewing what this person has written. But you start off by giving us an example which is totally impossible for anyone to believe.
First, you ask the reader to willingly suspend reason and belief, and accept that there is time travel. Okay, I can do that. I've accepted movies with time travel, travel to other galaxies and other things that are today impossible.
Then you ask us to believe that this highly technologically advanced person brought back a DVD with a root file of 144Kb.
That is where you will lose every thinking person. Anyone with more brains that a red brick is going to look you straight in the eyes and tell you that is probably the dumbest assertion ever made. Those two statements are so diametrically opposed that even a willing suspension of belief cannot encompass both.
Sorry, Mr. Pegg has nothing.
Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.

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Message 24 of 117 (113078)
06-06-2004 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by One_Charred_Wing
06-06-2004 6:21 PM


Re: Kent Hovind:Brilliant or Brilliantly stupid?
For a brief summary of Kent Hovind. check out This site
Basically, DrDino as he often refers to himself, is one of the biggest frauds out there and is so far off the scale that even AIG says to beware. He is right in there with Ron Wyatt and unfortuantely, it appears, Mr. Pegg.

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jar
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Message 44 of 117 (114537)
06-11-2004 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Cold Foreign Object
06-11-2004 6:08 PM


WT
This is blatant evidence of the "God sense removal" declared in Romans 1
What nonsense. You and the FUNDIES make a wonderful pair. You each have THE answer .
And in this case, your bitching doesn't even make sense. If Time Travel were developed it would certainly be testable while GOD will never be testable or verifiable.
Give it a break.

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Message 46 of 117 (114542)
06-11-2004 7:58 PM
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06-11-2004 7:44 PM


WT
If Time Travel existed would you be able to test and verify its existence.

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Message 49 of 117 (114681)
06-12-2004 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Cold Foreign Object
06-12-2004 2:15 PM


WT
That whole theory with the pyramids is crap and you should know it. It was refuted time and time again throughout that thread and you simply ignored every one.
There is NOTHING in that whole mass of crap that makes any sense. The pyramid is not where the authors say it is, the height they use is incorrect, the whole idea of Egyptians using a sacred inch is absurd.
That is simply embarassing and the kind of stuff that would drive even a believer to doubt. The biggest threat to a belief in GOD is nonsense stuff likelthat.

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jar
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Message 52 of 117 (114688)
06-12-2004 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Cold Foreign Object
06-12-2004 3:26 PM


Re: WT
Absolute fundie/scientism dogma dismissal.
I believe you would have a hard time convincing many folk here that I am a fundie/scientism whatever that hell that is.
You refuse to look at the evidence only because it threatens something you already spoke up for.
Wrong.
Mene, mene tekel upharsin.
Your ideas were refuted up one side and down the other.
First, the pyramid is not on the border, it is not halfway between anything, it is not in the center of anything.
There is no other reference to the Delta Quadrant. That is bullcrap post-hoc definitions added by the shyster writing some book that the gullible will pay good money for.
The Egyptians left us very good records of just how they measured things, and honest, they did not use the sacred inch.
When you do find something for which there is any evidence, I will be happy to discuss it with you and to learn from you. But at least try to find something that has some credibility.

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jar
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Message 54 of 117 (114695)
06-12-2004 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Cold Foreign Object
06-12-2004 3:58 PM


Re: WT
How bout just links.
Message 3
Message 17
Message 22
Message 29
Message 39
And I believe this is the proper thread because you are trying to get this dog to hunt here. It won't hunt anybetter here than it did there. It is nonsense and as silly as the idea that is covered in this thread.
You are trying to do the same thing that is alleged in this, transporting modern knowledge and technology back in time.
Your pyramid is as silly as the idea that some damn fool would take a KayPro or Compaq portable running windows 3.1 back to show a power point demo.

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jar
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Message 56 of 117 (114703)
06-12-2004 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Cold Foreign Object
06-12-2004 4:28 PM


Technology outline for WT
So are you refusing to refute or are you going to just say it as if it is even though it is not ?
the Pyramid nonsense was refuted in the links provided.
As to the Egyptians building the Pyramids, of course they did. There is absolutely no doubt that they did. We have a history of the early efforts showing the progression and the encountered problems, they worked them out and went on.
As to technology, there is nothing involved in the pyramids that requires a high level of technology. It was certainly possible with stone age technology, even easier if there was bronze. The Egyptians knew about the wheel, the lever, surveying, levels, the right angle, the plumb line, everything needed to build the pyramids.
They had labor (and all of the indications are that it was not slave labor), we have found the cities and settlements where they stayed, the logistical support base, bakeries, kitchens, dining areas. We have found signs that there was medical care and even competitions for productivity.
WT, there is no mystery about the pyramids.
As to your insertion related to the Suez Canal, well... that's typical WT. As usual, totally off the wall.
edited to add.
What does the Suez Canal have to do with anything? We know that at least since 600 BCE or so efforts were made to build such a canal.
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jar
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Message 67 of 117 (115432)
06-15-2004 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Cold Foreign Object
06-15-2004 3:33 PM


WILLOWTREE writes:
About what year did mankind forsake the belief that the Earth was flat ?
Most of mankind gave up the idea that the earth was flat a good while ago. It certainly was 2-3000 years ago at a minimum. The circumference was accurately measured before 200BC at the very latest. It is likely that the circumference had been calculated many times before that.

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Message 73 of 117 (116791)
06-19-2004 11:58 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by One_Charred_Wing
06-19-2004 11:41 PM


B2B
It's you that have missunderstood.
The referenced CD-Rom (out of print for some time) was available several languages, German, English, Italian, Spanish. It obvious that the time traveler took the Aramaic Language version back with him.

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Message 84 of 117 (116860)
06-20-2004 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Eddy Pengelly
06-20-2004 2:41 AM


Eddy Pengelly writes:
If the first time travel encounter that caused the religons to form was deleted from history, then no religions would form, thus no religious societies, means no civilization as we now know it.
There are many, many cases of independant invention. Eliminating an incident of invention once does not preclude it being invented. An example is bread. You can find independant developement of bread in areas with wheat, areas with maize and areas with rice. Aditional examples are alphabets, astronomy, numbering systems and beasts of burden.
This is even true in nature. Look at the variety of ways that sight and locomotion developed.
Sorry, but I see no support in that assertion.

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Message 87 of 117 (116869)
06-20-2004 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by sidelined
06-20-2004 12:23 PM


Re: ?????
[Cliff mode on]
It's a little known fact that the traveler did not bring along spare batteries. He used the lighter adapter next to the cup holder on the time machine to recharge it.
They took the Italian version back because Latin and modern Italian are the same. Paul spoke Italian but wrote in Greek. The Greek version of the Cd-Rom was not released though until VI months after the traveler went back.
Scribes were knowledgable people that wrote scribbles which is where we got the Game Scrabble. It was introduced by Kilroy the Elder and the first game was held at the Maximus Glutimus, on a board carved into the walls of the training room and won by the German-Roman gladiator Graff Itti. It has long been suspected that he had secret access to a modern dictionary since he won by placing the Q in Quovadis on a triple score square. Ever since then sayings showing superior sense or style witten on walls have been named in his honor.
[Cliff mode off]
You guys are so dense sometimes.
Pour me another one Coach.

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jar
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Message 90 of 117 (116879)
06-20-2004 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Melchior
06-20-2004 1:13 PM


Re: ?????
Melchoir writes:
Why not just plug the computer directly into the time machine, then? Since it seems to have presented no suprise to the people present.
[Cliff mode on]
As most cognisti know, there are indications that the CD-Rom was viewed in Chariots. This coin, thought by some to be a depiction of the Time Traveler in his Time Machine which was disguised as a Chariot is lasting proof.
Close examination shows that each horse has two hind legs, but only one front leg. This is an example of the problems caused by the inability of the Ancients to understand what the Time Traveler was showing on the CD-Rom. The Ancients, misunderstanding the nature of horse power became torqued. It is also the source for the modern three legged race which is still practiced in honor of the unknown time traveler.
[Cliff mode off]
Coach, just one more and I gotta get back on the route.

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