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Author Topic:   ONE GOD OF THREE RELIGIONS?
Buzsaw
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Message 8 of 47 (114587)
06-11-2004 11:44 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Andya Primanda
06-11-2004 10:39 PM


As a Muslim, I am fine with the thought that Allah/God is also the God of Jews and Christians, because He told us in the Qur'an that the Torah and Gospels were also His word (although later corrupted by man), ans Moses and Jesus were his messengers.
Why then is it that worship of the Christian Jew god, Jehovah is not recognized by Islam and acknowledged over 600 times in the bible as God/Elohim and zero times in the Quran as God/Allah?

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Buzsaw
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Message 11 of 47 (114591)
06-11-2004 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by jar
06-11-2004 2:24 PM


In Christianity are there multiple GODs?
No, Jar, in Christianity there is God, Jehovah, the father, Jesus, the son of Jehovah, his father, and the Holy Spirit, the spirit of both Jehovah the father and Jesus the son and the member of the trinity who makes the three members of one spirit, thus the oneness of the three or tri-unity/trinity.

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Buzsaw
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Message 13 of 47 (114595)
06-12-2004 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by jar
06-11-2004 11:51 PM


Jar, what in your post specifies as to whether the gods of the three religions are in fact one and the same?

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Buzsaw
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Message 14 of 47 (114597)
06-12-2004 12:03 AM
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06-11-2004 11:58 PM


You're not making any sense, Jar.

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Buzsaw
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Message 15 of 47 (114598)
06-12-2004 12:08 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by crashfrog
06-11-2004 11:49 PM


I don't even know why I participate in these threads; what the hell do I care if you guys hash out the details of mythology?
Well then, here's your hat, what's your hurry, Frogy?

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Buzsaw
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Message 19 of 47 (114656)
06-12-2004 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by jar
06-12-2004 12:23 AM


God of Jews = God of Christians.
God of Jews = God of Muslims.
God of Muslims = God of Christians.
Pretty simple, pretty clear.
You make no sense either way you put it, Jar. Let me rephrase my original statements.
My original statements:
No, Jar, in Christianity there is God, Jehovah, the father, Jesus, the son of Jehovah, his father, and the Holy Spirit, the spirit of both Jehovah the father and Jesus the son and the member of the trinity who makes the three members of one spirit, thus the oneness of the three or tri-unity/trinity.
Why then is it that worship of the Christian Jew god, Jehovah is not recognized by Islam and acknowledged over 600 times in the bible as God/Elohim and zero times in the Quran as God/Allah?
Revised statements:
No, Jar, in Judaism there is God, Jehovah and the Holy Spirit, the spirit of the god, Jehovah and the one who makes the god Jehovah and the spirit of the god Jehovah one.
Why then is it that worship of the Jew god, Jehovah is not recognized by Islam and acknowledged over 600 times in the Jewish scriptures as God/Elohim and zero times in the Quran as God/Allah?

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Buzsaw
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Message 21 of 47 (114716)
06-12-2004 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Andya Primanda
06-12-2004 2:16 PM


And your proof of that statement is what? We don't worship men or Satan. We worship only God, and God has no son. I've read parts of the New Testament, yes, inspiring words, but it doesn't convince me that Jesus is God, because the Qur'an does not say so.
Andya, did you know that one need not worship men or Satan to err in who one worships and follows? The OT which predates the Quran by many centuries fortells of a messianic person to be sent from God who would suffer and die for man's sins who resembles Jesus. Then the NT which predates the Quran by several hundred years states that Jesus became that one who meets the description of the prophecies and that that one is indeed the son of God. Your prophet who emerged on the scene hundreds of years later, Mr. Mohammed, Jonnny come lately emerges from paganism in a pagan nation and who with his family worshipped at Mecca, his god along with the 200 + other gods and writes a book contrary to the god of the Bible denying what the god of the Bible claims. So you tell me, based on this, how should we be expected to believe the two contradictive gods are one and the same god?
This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-12-2004 05:03 PM

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

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Buzsaw
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Message 28 of 47 (115218)
06-14-2004 11:39 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by DarkStar
06-14-2004 12:33 AM


Re: My Two Cents Worth
Jews believe in the god of abraham.
Christians believe in the god of abraham.
Muslims believe in the god of abraham.
What you people who think the Muslim god and the god of the Bible are one and the same are not considering is that all gods have a proper name. The proper name of the god/elohim of the Bible is Jehovah/YHWH and Islam rejects that. I wouldn't care to go into any Muslim fundie nation and start preaching that their god Allah's real name is Jehovah. I'd likely end up in prison, shot or put on the next plane out. They can say all they want to about Abraham and other Biblical characters but until they acknowledge the proper name of the god of their book as the same as the god of the Bible, they're whistling in the wind.

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