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Author Topic:   Biblical contradictions.
Jet
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Message 254 of 329 (11479)
06-13-2002 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by nator
06-09-2002 7:25 PM


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"A full frontal attack on the dumbing down so endemic in American society today. The book itself is dangerously close to being an example of the dumbth it attacks, but it is easy to read and may help to bring this problem to mind in a common sense sort of way. It is not all too intellectual, and not at all scientific."
From A Review of the Book "Dumbth" by Steve Alle

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Jet
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Message 256 of 329 (11509)
06-13-2002 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 255 by Percy
06-13-2002 4:36 PM


METHINKS THOU DOST PROTEST TOO MUCH
Shalom
Jet
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstei

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Jet
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Message 257 of 329 (11832)
06-19-2002 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 252 by Jeff
06-12-2002 3:19 PM


Jeff: Free Moral Agency ?
This begs the question: Is the God of the Bible All knowing ? All Powerful .All Loving ?
The Bible implies He is NOT.
How can Yahweh be All knowing if he demands Abraham sacrifice his only sononly to give His reprieve when Abraham raises the knife for the killing blow ? Didn’t HE already know what the outcome was, before HE even asked Abraham to kill his son ? Even if this was a loyalty test of Abraham’s devotion to Yahweh, an all knowing Entity would NOT NEED this test. HE knew all along the loyalties and priorities in Abraham’s heart.
***Yes, God did know the end from the beginning. But Abraham did not, and Isaac did not.***Jet
Jeff: So why did HE do it ? is HE cruel ? ..sadistic ?
Then HE isn’t an All Loving God.
***God is All-Knowing, but He is not All Loving. There are many things that God hates, and all are the product of sin. Most likely Jeff, you are simply exhibiting the tell-tale signs of the logic and moral code of a lost heart and mind.***Jet
Jeff: Could it be that this was just a morality tale, to instill piousness in the ancient Hebrews ? and had nothing to do with actual events ?
***That is about as likely as buying some oceanfront property in Arizona.***Jet
Jeff: Why else would an Omniscient, Omnipotent being behave as if HE were thug from a primitive, neolithic hunter gatherer society ?
***Again Jeff, your thought process is indicative of the fact that most likely you are simply exhibiting the tell-tale signs of the logic and moral code of a lost heart and mind.***Jet
Jeff: It makes one wonder why the Bible portrays God as less than Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omni-benevolent.
I suppose that, rather than reading the Bible LITERALLY, we could try INTERPRETTING the meaning into something other than what the Bible implies. However, many Christians would be offended by that.
***Or, you could take the proper approach and you could submit your will to the Will of God, and watch your world change for the better. Heart, mind, soul, and spirit. Unfortunately, the pride of some will never allow them to submit their will.***Jet
Shalom
Jet
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstei

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Jet
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Message 259 of 329 (11922)
06-21-2002 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Peter
06-20-2002 8:43 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Peter:
Show me the train of logic that would lead someone, on that basis
of one written work, to form an entire world-view and opinion
on the creation of the universe, life on earth, and
diversity of life on earth.
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***This is what I would consider flawed logic on your part. The Bible is not "one written work", as you put it. It consists of more than 60 individual writings, written by dozens of men who were inspired of God, over a timespan of centuries, and yet the Bible is consistant throughout its' entirety. Show me one other piece of literary work that can claim such accuracy and accomplishment. Wait, let me save you some time. There is no other such piece of literary work. Only that which is inspired of God could accomplish such a feat of complete and total accuracy.***
Shalom
Jet
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstei

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Jet
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Message 321 of 329 (26004)
12-09-2002 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 260 by nator
06-21-2002 7:27 PM


Sometimes sarcasm begets sarcasm. With that in mind, I offer the following observations.......
Originally posted by schrafinator:
Depending upon which Gospel you read, Jesus is crucified either before (John) or after (Matthew, Mark, & Luke) Passover. This is hardly consistent.
***With the understanding that you are an ex-adherent to catholicism, an organization that does not exactly encourage a deep and thorough study of the scriptures, and considering that Roman Catholicism is nothing more than a continuation of Babylonian cultic beliefs and that the RC has intermingled these pagan beliefs with very few true Christian teachings, (a claim that I am more than willing to document for you in the "Faith and Belief" forum, at your request), I will overlook your obvious misunderstanding of the scriptures. For the sake of clarification, please do not expect me to turn this into a Bible study for you. If you were at all interested in the Revelational Truths of the Gospel of the Kingdon of God, you would most likely have fled that pagan organization long before you did and quite possibly would be steeped within the Word by now, filled with the ability of spiritual discernment.***
Originally posted by schrafinator:
The Koran? The Bahvigad Gita? The I Ching? The Lord of the Rings trilogy could be included if we are just talking about literary works.
***Ok, now you are just trying to make me laugh!***
Originally posted by schrafinator:
Wait, let me save you some time. There is no other such piece of literary work. Only that which is inspired of God could accomplish such a feat of complete and total accuracy.
***Truth spoken, yet offered in sarcasm, denial, and disbelief, quite possibly have become words that may someday haunt your very soul. One would hardly expect a true adherent to the RC teachings, whether an ex-adherent or not, to understand the Mysteries of Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua Ha Mashiach, let alone the Ruach of Elohim. Any superficial reading of Holy Scripture, such as you must have done, will lead one down the road of confusion and misunderstanding. Confusion and misunderstanding seem to be the hallmark of Roman Catholicism as it is with anyone who refuses to recognize Yahweh Elohim, acknowledge Yahshua Ha Mashiach, and rely on the Ruach of Elohim as the only real source of Truth, Knowledge, and Understanding that exists throughout the universe. No amount of Darwinian doublespeak will ever be able to mask that reality.***
Shalom
Jet
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstein

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