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Dr Jack
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Message 136 of 303 (115314)
06-15-2004 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 133 by Rrhain
06-15-2004 2:22 AM


Re: Funny you should reference Emmitsburg.
But since we already pay this out to mixed-sex couples, how would same-sex couples change anything? If we have two men and two women, how does a boy/boy, girl/girl arrangement cost any more than a boy/girl, boy/girl arrangement?
Because the union of the three groups is necessarily larger than any single group, and thus will cost more.

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Dr Jack
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Message 141 of 303 (115327)
06-15-2004 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by crashfrog
06-15-2004 8:40 AM


Are you sure about that? Don't you think one of the reasons we, as a society, encourage marriage is because it reduces public costs?
Rrhain was talking about pension rights (and other associated benefits that are passed to a married partner at death), I was responding specifically on that point.

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Dr Jack
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Message 171 of 303 (115633)
06-16-2004 5:53 AM
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06-15-2004 9:51 PM


Re: Funny you should reference Emmitsburg.
That would be true if the situation you're describing was the case; but it is not. Unless you're suggesting that the gay couples are currently forming straight 'faux' marriages to get pension rights? (And I know you're not).
We already have the pairs set up; we're just only giving rights to some of them. Suppose it's something like this among your 40 people:
16 man/women.
1 man/man.
1 woman/woman.
The rest are single.
The man/woman pairs cost extra because of the right to inherit the pension income - as compared to the man/man, woman/woman and singles. If you extend the right to inherit the pension to man/man and woman/woman then it will cost more for that extra 12.5% that have gained an additional right.
Although, in practice, man/man couples would cost less than either man/woman or woman/woman.
Quite frankly however, I think it's about as bollocks an argument as arguing that we shouldn't aim for pay equality between men and women because it would cost more. Just a technical quibble.

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Message 189 of 303 (115733)
06-16-2004 11:37 AM
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06-16-2004 11:18 AM


Re: The key point for me
So, perky young breasts ARE sexier?
perky, young women are sexier in general.
No wonder so many women get fake tits.
Fake tits are horrible.

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