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Chiroptera
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Message 16 of 42 (117958)
06-23-2004 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by kendemyer
06-23-2004 3:40 PM


Re: addendum
I don't understand your last post, kendemeyer. Are you posting, or are you not posting until September?

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Adminnemooseus
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Message 17 of 42 (117960)
06-23-2004 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by kendemyer
06-23-2004 2:54 PM


The edit function
quote:
... allow me to use a edit function.
As I understand it, your rights to edit were removed because you continued to edit for content (not just typos) long after the message was posted. Once the message is posted, the content should remain the same. If you wish to add, remove, or modify content - You should make such statements in new messages.
If you will desist in late content edits, I am fully in favor of your edit rights being returned. But such an action is in Admin/Percy's hands.
Adminnemooseus

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Loudmouth
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Message 18 of 42 (117966)
06-23-2004 4:05 PM


Ken,
Number one, no censorship has taken place. We can read all of your posts just fine, none of it has been erased by any of the admins. Also, we can still read all of the sites that you listed just fine, since they have not been censored.
Number two, you could have posted it directly into the Free For All forum. Nothing is stopping you from doing so at this very moment.
Number three, this is a debate forum, not a newspaper. If you are going to be gone for an extended period of time, why didn't you put it in the Short Topics forum so that people could read up for when you return. Again, the Short Topics forum does not require admin approval.
It seems that you have unwittingly censored yourself. Your own paranoia seems to have taken over your thought process. You might want to take a deep breath and actually try and understand why your post has not been included in the forums needing approval. I believe that the admins are being very fair given the wide breadth of the topic and your soon to be absence for a few months. In other words, cry me a river Ken.

  
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Message 19 of 42 (117971)
06-23-2004 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Adminnemooseus
06-23-2004 3:49 PM


Re: The edit function
Adminnemooseus writes:
If you will desist in late content edits, I am fully in favor of your edit rights being returned. But such an action is in Admin/Percy's hands.
Unless I screwed up on the permissions for the control panel, any moderator, administrator or director can restore Ken's edit permissions.
Ken, the reason they don't take away your edit permissions at TheologyWeb is probably because their board doesn't have permissions control at that level of detail. Neither did this board until recently, but we thank you for providing the impetus.

--Percy
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MisterOpus1
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Message 20 of 42 (117972)
06-23-2004 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Adminnemooseus
06-23-2004 3:49 PM


Re: The edit function
Ken, I have to ask in all seriousness, are you delusional?
Or do you gripe for the mere sake of griping?
You argue about being censured, but AdminAsgara was perfectly within reason for shutting down your Jonah thread. Furthermore, Brian performed a splendid job in critiquing your paper, yet you somehow refused to acknowledge a great many of those critiques. I fail to see how message #142 in that thread did any rebuttal to Brian, other than pointing out a minor spelling error on his own part. You questioned his motives, you ignored his many critical points on your paper, yet you seem to believe he and everyone else here (save your emailed buddy) are somehow out to get you. In all my days of lurking here on this forum I have yet to see someone as defensive as yourself, regardless of their position in the debate.
Furthermore, I really can't understand why in the hell you cannot use the "reply" button, as well as use [QUOTE]s when addressing specific comments. It really does greatly assist one in a debating forum, yet you seem to refuse any suggestions by anyone. And speaking of refusing suggestions, there's a damn good reason why your editing priviledges were taken away - your messages were edited and re-edited so many damn times it was nearly impossible to follow your arguments rationally without having to go back and see where you made your edits. Again I fail to see why you simply wouldn't address counterarguments when they were presented to you instead of editing ad nauseum to the point of absurdity.
So now you return, asking everyone to read a book on your "convincing evidence" of Biblical prophecy before commentating on a thread. Is that any way to really start a worthwhile debate, or are you merely posting just to post? You simply must excuse me for questioning both your trustworthiness and debate tactics.

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Brian
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Message 21 of 42 (117973)
06-23-2004 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by kendemyer
06-23-2004 3:33 PM


Re: TO: Brian and Asgara and PercyTO
The reason I posted it now rather than later is given in my "Important addendum" at
Is your sore wrist related to your overuse of the Internet Ken, maybe you should give it a rest for a while.
I do not have any proof you collaborated with Asgara in the Jonah string censorship.
Pity that isn't it Ken.
Given the fact you did give land some very minor and inconsequential blows in that debate
I think it was almost 70 blows Ken, maybe more.
Perhaps a Scottish judge in my shoes would say "not proved
A Scottish judge would have put you in a padded cell before your second post.
I believe you should appeal your "Not Proven" verdict in my eyes by opening up the Jonah string.
But I couldn't handle the guilt if your wrist finally 'popped' when you were typing a relpy to me.
Brian.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 22 of 42 (118047)
06-23-2004 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Chiroptera
06-23-2004 3:42 PM


Re: addendum
This has got trick question written all over it - no ?

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Chiroptera
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Message 23 of 42 (118049)
06-23-2004 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Cold Foreign Object
06-23-2004 7:33 PM


Re: addendum
Yes, indeed
Although, to be honest, it was an honest question. I didn't realize the deviousness until after I posted.

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mike the wiz
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Message 24 of 42 (118224)
06-24-2004 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by AdminAsgara
06-23-2004 3:04 PM


Re: Is My Moderation Style Wrong?
Queenofbabes writes:
Contrary to Ken's usual diatribes, I have no issue with Christian posters here or their ideas. Some of my closest friends here are Christians. I like debate, unfortunately replying in any of Ken's topics bears no resemblance to it.
If any one else here has issues with my moderating style I would like to hear it. Ken's assertions of some anonymous member agreeing with him do not count. If my style is not working, I will gladly step down.
I'd just like to offer my support as a christian who has recieved rapid and speedy efficiency from AdminAsgara. And so, I feel the claims of Kendemyer aren't going to condemyer. I think this particular problem is probably because you don't like eachother, Maybe...atleast, that's my own Theory.
Anyhows, since I have experienced speedy efficiency due to Asgara babe putting my topics through, then surely I am independent evidence and have falsified Ken's claim with my testimony/evidence. IOW, you don't have to step down, because of this issue.
And if Ken continues to profane your name among the nations, I'll eat him for breakfast, with Willowtree for bread. And if Percy sacks you, I'll grill him, cut a slab off and devour him, with Ned sauce.

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AdminAsgara
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Message 25 of 42 (118260)
06-24-2004 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by mike the wiz
06-24-2004 10:19 AM


Re: Is My Moderation Style Wrong?
Wow Mike, you mean we can butt heads in numerous threads, hold vastly differing worldviews and still be friends?? Will wonders never cease. (just kidding, I had no doubt..)
Don't worry, it'll take more than the likes of Ken DeMyer to get me to leave here, and Percy isn't able to replace me yet. LOL
Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence from you and Jar. It's appreciated.

AdminAsgara
Queen of the Universe

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mike the wiz
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Message 26 of 42 (118267)
06-24-2004 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by AdminAsgara
06-24-2004 12:39 PM


Re: Is My Moderation Style Wrong?
(just kidding, I had no doubt..)
It's good you say that. I held off on my message of support, to see if you might suspect me as the person who emailed Ken. So you have passed the test, and kept the faith.
Are our worldviews really that different? You seem to have "faith" in me.

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coffee_addict
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Message 27 of 42 (118271)
06-24-2004 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by AdminAsgara
06-24-2004 12:39 PM


Re: Is My Moderation Style Wrong?
Just so you know, and if you are crazy enough to suspect me as the email son-of-a-woman , I'm not crazy enough to think it was unfair.

The Laminator

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AdminAsgara
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Message 28 of 42 (118285)
06-24-2004 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by coffee_addict
06-24-2004 1:03 PM


Re: Is My Moderation Style Wrong?
Don't worry Lammy, not only do I not think it was you or Mike, I don't care who it was (if anybody).
The people I respect on this board would have no problem telling me "to my face" if they had a problem with how I do things.

AdminAsgara
Queen of the Universe

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jar
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Message 29 of 42 (118287)
06-24-2004 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by AdminAsgara
06-24-2004 1:21 PM


Re: Is My Moderation Style Wrong?
Sorry, you are OT and sucking up to us will get you nowhere.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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AdminAsgara
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Message 30 of 42 (118398)
06-24-2004 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
06-24-2004 1:25 PM


Re: Is My Moderation Style Wrong?
/sigh..my blatant attention seeking gets me nowhere.

AdminAsgara
Queen of the Universe

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