Why creationists panick...

"I warn you now, I will be pinning you down on specifics, there will be no "I think it happened like this", you will be required to produce evidence for a flood theory that fits all geological phenomenon."--Why do some people just feel like attacking the subject and not considering the evidence to point to different interperetations and that it is entirely possible? Discussion is great and I am working on replying to 3 of the posts in the "Is the Global Flood Feasible? Discussion Q & A" thread its a little tough because I have to explain and try not to mess up so much when I do so. So theres a little research needed to be made.
"I think it happened like this"? You practically contredicted yourself. What does the evidence tell us? It tells us what could have happend as long as it cooperates with what your basing your theory on, the evidence. So what really would your point be when you say we can't say 'well I think it happend like this", when the entire idea of Evolution is based on that assertion? Everything is based on that assertion if you cannot obtain historical evidence for it.
As for being 'required to produce evidence for a flood theory that fits all geological phenomenon.' that can be discussed well.------------------

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[This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 12-31-2001]

"I've come to the conclusion that creationists make it a sport to critisize insignificant details and flaws of any development or new theory on evolution by people that mostly spend their whole life studying the subject."
--You've come to such a conclusion have you? Well I would have to say that I have come to the conclusion that you don't look at the creationist view while putting creationist glasses on (analogy). Creationists don't make it a sport to critisize theories just because they are Theories on Evolution. But what I have seemed to find is that almost everyone has some sort of flaw in it. I don't say 'Oh my gosh a new theory on evolution! We better panick, they are going to blow us away with this one because we can't explain it otherwize! We better discredit it right before we even hear about it." Nor is that what I or any other Creationist that I know of does the same. Though I can feel rest assured that practically everyone pointing to 'millions of years' or something of that nature always has something in it that can be explained to point to something almost the total opposite. And that is with considering their interperetation of the evidence."I observed that Creationists in my oppinion tend to panick that evolution theory pushes a god further and further away from their existance and reduces them too close for comfort to an organism instead of a child of some superbeing."
--I don't have to worry about that, nor should any other Creationist."The irony of it is , I think, is that Evolutionism doesn't prove that there isn't a god, yet religious people are really defensive about Evolution."
--I don't know too much about the other religions, unfortunately much of the catholic church has come to accept it. And unfortunately some christians also. Its not that it denies the possibility of a God its that it practically destroys who God really is."It just puts god in a different perspective and should enrich religions."
--It puts a different perspecitve on it but defenantly should not enrich religions, especially the Biblical God. It denies some of the most important aspects of the bible. Even Jesus our Creator, himself denied Evolution, 'For in the beginning God created them male and female', 'I am fearfully and wonderfully made' (Jesus did not speak that quote)."Even though I'm an atheist and an evolutionist I respect religions or any seekers of truth for that matter, but I tend lose that respect when I see people bashing scientific method that made you be able to microwave your dinner yet they accept without question the contents of some book written and rewritten by mortal people."
--Im glad you respect the 'seekers of truth and religions' but I find that you don't know what Creationist scientists say when they open their mouths, and look at them with 'Uniformitarian Glasses'. Creationists speak from science, not from blind faith, not directly from the bible and says 'well God did it' or 'God made it that way'. Science is Science, Theory is a Belief, founded on scientific interperetation. To deny evolution is not going to make the microwave any less microwavable. Evolution is not a basis for higher thinking or the foundation for the reason we were able to invent the microwave or any other invention. The only thing Evolution has done I will admit is force Creationists to come up and defend their belief threw known science, logic, reason, and explination. Thus possibly paving the way for few inventions to come about or sertain areas of knowledge to increase. Though this is not a cause of Evolution, its a cause of a mind willing to think and find a reason, or explination, whether right, wrong, or misunderstood."Science is by no means perfect but this childish denial of some people really needs to stop."
--No creationist fights against science, we 'fight' against the people that try to propose their theories, and evolutionary thinking into the public school systems and feel they should only teach one side and critisize the other from their own ignorance. And the people that constantly put the pressure in saying it is a 'fact'."You creationists , prove to me that the sun is a star. Have you been to star before? Have you seen it closeby with your own eyes? You accept that as a scientific fact , yet you cannot accept evolutional theories that are formed in the same way. I'm stepping in your view of the world here."Your asking a quesiton and explian a differnt answer because we are Creationists and you are Evoluitonists. Someone who denies that the sun is a star is simply missunderstood and according to defintion is science. 'A self-luminous celestial body consisting of a mass of gas held together by its own gravity in which the energy generated by nuclear reactions in the interior is balanced by the outflow of energy to the surface, and the inward-directed gravitational forces are balanced by the outward-directed gas and radiation pressures.' Surely, though our limited understanding of even our own sun, if the sun is not a star we should consider every other luminous ball of gas out there not stars also. That the sun is a star is not a theory it is a known fact, we can see the sun where it is now, but we cannot see evolution going threw the processes needed by evolution. Evolution is a theory that tries to explain the universe."Religion always resisted science in history , they have always been competing . Religion is the answer to the unanswerable for the ignorant being."
--I don't know too much about what the early churches thought of science but I know that today we don't have to be afraid of it and we should reach out and learn as much as we can because it is used to defend our faith and it is defended very well."When science actually tries to formulate an answer , religion feel threatened. It took years and several scientists to convince people the earth wasn't flat nor the center of the universe even though their calculations where accurate but people simply did not accept any infractions on their beliefs or self adorance (indeed that's what christianity and most religions really teach : we are the children of a superbeing , so that makes us kind of "super" ourselves). The definitive proof came when we orbited earth and saw it with our own eyes that Earth was a sphere."
--No where in the bible does it make the assertion that the world is flat, infact if you actually read it you can see it asserts the opposite, the earth is a 3D sphere. And it is layed out in scripture."Maybe someday we will breach another frontier called Time and denying people will see it with their own eyes that Evolution did make us what we are and then the next question will be: Who/what caused evolution to happen? And Scientists will have theories and Religion will have an interpretation of the bible I hope I live to write a simular post then."
And just mabye when we realize that God is who he says he is and that he created the world in 6 litteral days and that he truelly did fearfully and wonderfully create us and every knee will bow and every tounge confess that he is lord of all.------------------

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[This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 12-31-2001]