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jar
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Message 5 of 232 (122949)
07-08-2004 11:02 AM
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07-08-2004 2:22 AM


First, can we get some information from you so that we can be sure we are all talking about the same thing.
  • What critters and things died off during each of the Cambrian Extinctions?
  • Why did no flowering plants die during the whole period?
  • Why did no dinosaurs die during the whole period?
  • Why did no men die during the whole period?
  • Why did no grasses die during the whole period?
  • Why did no birds die during the whole period?
  • Why did no mammals die during the whole period?
  • Why did no reptiles die during the whole period?

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jar
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Message 13 of 232 (123163)
07-09-2004 1:13 AM
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07-09-2004 12:45 AM


Re: in and out of Eden
LMAO.
In other words, you have absolutely no answers. Now why does that not surprise me.

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Message 15 of 232 (123173)
07-09-2004 1:40 AM
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07-09-2004 1:31 AM


Re: in and out of Eden
There are eight very simple questions in Message 5 that you have still not answered.

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Message 21 of 232 (123335)
07-09-2004 12:51 PM
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07-09-2004 3:53 AM


Re: in and out of Eden
Actually, not one of them was covered.
So let's try to make this simple for you.
Are you saying that the Cambrian die off is the Flood? If so, I believe that almost every biologist, geologist and evolutionist would agree that the Cambrian die off appears to be a world-wide water event.

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Message 25 of 232 (123421)
07-09-2004 5:05 PM
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07-09-2004 4:01 PM


arkathon
There is still an open question at Message 21.

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Message 29 of 232 (123459)
07-09-2004 7:33 PM
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07-09-2004 7:32 PM


Re: water we got
So you are saying that the Cambrian layers are pre-flood?

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Message 31 of 232 (123472)
07-09-2004 7:54 PM
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07-09-2004 7:50 PM


Re: the point, exactly, watson.
If it is pre-flood, is it after everyone is egressed from the garden?

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Message 33 of 232 (123486)
07-09-2004 10:04 PM
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07-09-2004 9:40 PM


Re: The real cambrian explosion!
Well, it's obvious it was after Eden. You'll certainly agree with that won't you?

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Message 36 of 232 (123525)
07-10-2004 1:14 AM
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07-10-2004 12:48 AM


Re: The real cambrian explosion!
Because there was life all over the world.

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Message 40 of 232 (123532)
07-10-2004 2:04 AM
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07-10-2004 1:59 AM


Re: The real cambrian explosion!
Well, since there is no evidence of any split it would be pretty silly to even speculate about that wouldn't it.

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Message 41 of 232 (123534)
07-10-2004 2:05 AM
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07-10-2004 1:59 AM


Re: The real cambrian explosion!
So what died during the Cambrian die offs?

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Message 52 of 232 (123660)
07-10-2004 5:41 PM
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07-10-2004 4:52 PM


Re: elusive edenic pond
Well, what can be shown is that during the Cambrian Period there was lots of life.
What can not be shown is that there were any humans, mammals, dinosaurs, trees, flowers or grass during the Cambrian.
So any conjecture that humans might have exited is certainly nothing but pure speculation. Any conjecture that there was a Garden of Eden goes into the realm of myth.
The existence of the fabled garden may or may not be true. But it is certainly not needed to explain any of the evidence that is available from the Cambrian Period. Since it is totally unnecessary, there is no reason to bring it into the discussion.

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Message 62 of 232 (123830)
07-11-2004 9:56 PM
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07-11-2004 9:49 PM


Re: sure looks like it!
Couple problems.
There are several distinctly different Cambrian periods and there is lots of evidence of gradual evolution of the critters over this period.
Second, the Cambrian period lasts over 50 Million Years.
Also remember that the Cambrian is only a small portion of the Paleozoic Era.

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Message 65 of 232 (123833)
07-11-2004 10:47 PM
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07-11-2004 10:40 PM


Re: sure looks like it!
But what we see is not long lived versus shortlived critters. What we see is change, evolution of the critters during the period.
Remember, the Cambrian Period is just a short, tiny part of the history. Afterall, 50 millions years isn't all that long. And, as I said, it is still just a little part of the Paleozoic Era.
You keep wanting to go back to some outside force or creation or such when there is absolutely no need. Just look at the evidence and I think you'll come arouond.

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Message 67 of 232 (123839)
07-11-2004 11:19 PM
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07-11-2004 11:04 PM


Re: sure looks like it!
Says you! I say a wonderful full spectrum of creation, which some God ignorer might like to feebly try attribute, by reason of similar looking creatures, to some rash, baseless, fanciful fable.
Well, as a Christian I can only tell you what most everyone else sees. And what you see in the Cambrian is a gradual change over 50 Million years or so.
And you're telling me!? I know it was short, it is you who says very much otherwise!!!
Well, 50 Million years is only a brief instant in the history of the Earth.
No need, of course for God! Why, we are presented with an alternative here, however cunningly crafted, and diobolically demented!
But what does God have to do with Evolution? That's why almost all of the Christian Churches support the Theory of Evolution and speak out againt Creationists.
God deals with WHY. There is nothing in Christianity that precludes Evolution as the HOW. After all, even Genesis shows that Genesis is not a book to take literally.

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