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pink sasquatch
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Message 67 of 145 (124729)
07-15-2004 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by redwolf
07-15-2004 2:13 PM


save the texas prairie chicken!
If there were anything to evolution, chickens would regain the ability to fly as well as ducks fly. There isn't, and they don't
You are either joking, or seriously do not understand even the basic concepts of evolution.
By your logic, the ostrich should be able to fly, because flying is somehow better than not-flying. This is your own clouded viewpoint of what constitutes "better".
To you, it may seem that it would be better for a reptile to have legs than not, but in some environments legless reptiles fare better than those with legs.
Also, you should take care to use domestic (artificially selected) animals as examples to disprove evolution.
For example, it's like saying we should expect to see dachsunds become wolf-like over our lifetimes, and that because we do not, evolution must be incorrect.
Now imagine we dropped a large herd of dachsunds in the wilds of Alaska, they managed to survive, and we came back in 10,000 generations: if the descendants remained absolutely unchanged from the members of the founding population, that would be some evidence to counter evolutionary thought (unless dachsunds are somehow already perfectly adapted to life in Alaska, which I doubt).
It is more likely that if the population managed to survive, they would have noticeable adaptations, such as much thicker coats.

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pink sasquatch
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Message 68 of 145 (124731)
07-15-2004 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by redwolf
07-15-2004 2:19 PM


Re: genetic engineering
Recent studies in fact indicate that humans appear to have been fabricated using the same techniques which we ourselves are now starting to use in bio-engineering projects, which are anything but natural:
Redwolf, please explain how you think the linked article shows that human DNA was fabricated.
It doesn't.
As an example, many researchers use fluorescent proteins found in jellyfish as reporter genes in their experiments. Does this mean the original jellyfish gene was "fabricated" by a designer? Absolutely not.
Just because humans use biological processes in research, does not mean the biological processes were fabricated by some other entity.
The examples the article describes all fit evolutionary thought - indeed much of the work cited was done by evolutionary geneticists.
I'm not sure you understand your own "evidence".

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pink sasquatch
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Message 74 of 145 (124770)
07-15-2004 4:28 PM
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07-15-2004 4:10 PM


Re: save the texas prairie chicken!
I reply to posts which strike me as halfway serious, but not to anything which starts off with some sort of indication of the poster being a legend in his own mind or anything like that.
The reason I responded as I did, was because your post did not "strike me as halfway serious."
You posted that in order for evolution to be true, domestic chickens would have to be evolving flight akin to that seen in ducks.
The idea itself is absurd, and the fate of the theory of evolution definitely does not rest on the idea.
I started with the "you are possibly joking" phrase because I thought you were perhaps being facetious, sarcastic, with your comment - as many others have occasion to do in this forum.
Nice how that somehow excuses you from responding to any of the points I've made.
I'm still particularly interested in having you explain what in your linked article demonstrates that human DNA was fabricated by a designer...

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Message 112 of 145 (125305)
07-17-2004 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by redwolf
07-17-2004 4:55 PM


Mechanical cranes have the structural support (cables) to handle large torque loads. A sauropod dinosaur's neck did not.
But they did have tendons and musculature which could effectively act as cables...

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