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Jasonb
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Message 1 of 100 (127035)
07-23-2004 3:34 PM


I have a question about an argument I have heard several gay men use. The particulars may change slightly but the crux of the argument goes like this:
I knew I was gay when I was five years old.
And they use this argument to support that they were born gay. Because they knew they were gay at a very young age.
My question is this:
Is it normal for a child aged 5 or younger to know their sexuality?
I have asked non-gay friends if they knew they were straight at the age of 5 and the unanimous response is, I didn’t even know what sex was at that age.
I put forth the following three reasons some gay men say this:
1. They are lying to support their cause.
2. Something happened to them at a very young age that introduced sex, and in particular gay sex, to them.
3. The ‘gay gene’ somehow makes the owners aware of their sexual orientation earlier than ‘non-gay gene’ owners.
Disclaimer: I am not trying to offend anyone. I really have heard this argument on more than one occasion and wish to learn if it is a valid argument.

Jason B

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Jasonb
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Message 22 of 100 (127203)
07-23-2004 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by mike the wiz
07-23-2004 9:33 PM


I fail to see what message one is trying to achieve.
First of all I will say that I do not advocate hate speech or hate preach, toward anyone, ever. As far as lusting after women in my heart, I have and I am guilty of adultery for sure, but I can’t condone my sin.
I don't think I was aware of my sexuality at five. I don't remember. But I do know I was aware I was interested in girls long before puberty. .
I knew at a young age that there was something between a boy and girl that I didn’t quite understand because it was modeled by my parents. I remember kissing a girl on the cheek in kindergarten but only because I had seen it done by my parents, or in a movie. But does that suggest sexual orientation, or environmental influences?

Jason B

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Jasonb
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Message 28 of 100 (127805)
07-26-2004 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by mike the wiz
07-25-2004 10:49 PM


But I don't think a certain type of people should be hand picked as an example
I guess my response to that is that I don’t want to single out any individual and point out his or her sins, lest the mirror be turned around toward me to reveal my sins. Sins I will not name on this forum because they shame me, and that is the difference.
A friend of mine informed me that I probably shouldn’t have suggested this topic, because it is divisive, and Christian’s should try and find common ground in which to start a discussion. I think I am going to take his advice.
To anyone who was offended by this thread, I apologize. I wish to drop it now and move on to other topics, if that is OK.
Iron sharpens Iron. Thanks Chris.

Jason B

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