Problems with the first life

our main topic is to prove whether there exist a creater of the universe or not?why are you insisting to jump to next step? this point will be disscused after finishing the most important point.This message has been edited by dandon83, 07-21-2004 07:04 AM

sure! but would you please give me some time ! I have an exam in "neuclear and radioactive chemistry" on saturday.

This is a short storysome one who did not believe in god asked a muslim relegion man(let me call him so) to prove to him that this universe was made by a great creater. And gave an appointment for meeting, at next day's morning.
It is the time,now, but the muslim relegion man did not come yet!!the other man said:"A relegion man and he did not come on time??!!!!!".
He was right the relegion man(we as muslims call it "SHAIKH")was late for several hours !! at last he came.
The other man asked"where have you been untill now?".
the SHAIKH said:" Iam sorry .I was to come on time .but when I reached the river,I found that the bridge was damaged. I sat thinking how to cross. And while I am thinking the trees moved together and the needles ,the hummur started to work . Afew hours later a small ship was made. so I could cross the river .and Again I am sorry!!"The other man did not believe him , and shouted:" You are not only late but also a lier. Do you think that I will believe your fool story??!!!!"The SHAIKH said:"SO YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A SMALL SHIP WAS MADE BY IT SELF ,AND YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT THE WHOLE HUGE GREAT UNIVERSE WAS MADE WITHOUT A GREATER CREATER????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

As our prophet says(as God (ALLAH) wants him to say in explaining the holy quran):The truth is what the muslim is seeking for,where ever he found it he took it.So finally ,I am seeking for the truth.So If you got it I would be thankful to take it-after you prove it-.This message has been edited by dandon83, 07-22-2004 05:16 AM

have you looked before at force laws in physics? did you see that coloumb ,magnetic,gravitational forces all have similar laws?
does the gravitational force law on earth differs from that on mars or any other planet or any place in the universe?If you look carefully,you will see a unity in the universe . what can you conclude? I , conclude that it whole is someone's work.I do not know what does ANALOGY mean .but if its meaning is (SIMILARITY) ; then I can say that science it self uses similarity -some times- to explain or prove things that are hard to be done in a direct way.

It goes side by side with science. science is studying of the universe
so it will lead -surely- to the origion of every thing . which we do not agree with each other in cocnclusions we make from science . So one of us has some wronge understanding of the spirit of science, and i like to know who is that one.This message has been edited by dandon83, 07-26-2004 03:50 AM

I have replied at you in the place you mentioned.This message has been edited by dandon83, 07-26-2004 04:36 AM

An undesigned universe has to be consistent; a designed one does not.how could it be?
if you ordered your hair, you will give it a certain shape then each single hair will contribute to the whole shape.but if you did not , here, no unity will exist.

Scientists frequently uses analogy to explain things; science never uses analogy to prove things.How?
scientist foud that cupper conducts electricity and cupper is a metal. they examined another metals and found the same property in them . and they conclude that all metals conduct electricity, and they announced this conclusion before testing the all known metals.NOW, can you say they were wrong???

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If the universe was designed, that designer COULD do anything they liked.
______________________________________________________________________COULD means ,if he want to ;he would do.Butif he don't want to; he would not do.But COULD will NEVER mean that if he did NOT DO ;then he is not the one who DO.