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Message 15 of 40 (85006)
02-10-2004 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by CreationMan
02-10-2004 10:56 AM


65 million years..
References please. I would be surprised if the exact same species is there.
I think you are referring to a type of tree discovered a few years ago in Australia. I don't think it is the same species but don't actually know.
It is neat isn't it though? It's why I have a cycad in the house.
And is there a point to it?

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Message 16 of 40 (85010)
02-10-2004 11:14 AM
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02-10-2004 10:53 AM


Re: Dinos
Actually Scientifically, unless scientists could look over ever inch of the earth at the same time and see that no dinos exist, only then could we say that they are "extinct" but it is because of evolutionary ideas that we are lead to believe that they don't exist.
I'm afraid at that extreme (every inch ... at the same time) your suggestion is obviously very silly. Let's say I could scan all of north america at once then 1 month later all of africa and found no dinosaurs. Then at monthly intervals the rest of the continents. Could I then not safely give a high probability conclusion that there are not dinosaurs? If not why not?

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Message 26 of 40 (85070)
02-10-2004 2:46 PM
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02-10-2004 1:56 PM


Re: 65 million years..
"almost identical" -- "unchanged"
You answered your own question in one way.
The other answer isn't so obvious if you don't actually understand evolutionary theory. The can be selective pressure to stay the same you know. Mutations are a source of change but selection can weed them out.

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Message 33 of 40 (129011)
07-30-2004 4:48 PM
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07-30-2004 4:21 PM


Ogopogo
Funny same thing with Ogopogo here in BC. The pictures always turn out fuzzy and with no way of determining distance. Odd that, eh?
I've actually seen the ogopogo though, several times in fact.
Okanogan lake is somewhat like Loch Ness in configuration. Long and thin. This seems to allow the lake to have a silvery sheen at times. When it is moderatly smooth.
Perhaps the parallel, not too far apart shores (a few kms compared to 10's of kms of length) allows for the formation of standing waves more easily. In addtion, the steepish sides allow for vantage points above and looking down on the lake. This gives the sky reflecting silver blue surface of the lake (like mercury). Then when a standing wave forms you get black 'humps'. Often 3 in a row and they will sit there for many minutes at a time. They are exactly what is frequently described in ogopogo sightings.

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Message 35 of 40 (129042)
07-30-2004 7:40 PM
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07-30-2004 2:09 PM


Another small misconception
There seems to be the underlying idea that if dinosaurs were not extinct that would be some problem for evolutionary theory. Could you explain why that would be if you think it is?
There would be a problem going the other way. If there were reptiles back before the Devonian, say.

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Message 38 of 40 (129145)
07-31-2004 2:54 PM
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07-31-2004 2:05 PM


Re: Ogopogo
I told you what it was like. The monster has a protective disguise that makes him look just like a dark, standing wave on a flat silvery lake.

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