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One_Charred_Wing
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Joined: 11-21-2003


Message 91 of 302 (130437)
08-04-2004 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by contracycle
08-04-2004 10:47 AM


Re: Tolerance and maturity
I'll just answer your questions briefly.
I'm 16. By giving people lip you're sending out an intentionally hateful message, contrary to racist JOKES. Don't get me wrong; giving people lip is fun and by all means part of survival in junior high and sometimes highschool. Still, consider that you're condemning us for joking when you've said hurtful things too.

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contracycle
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Message 92 of 302 (130604)
08-05-2004 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by One_Charred_Wing
08-04-2004 6:24 PM


Re: Tolerance and maturity
quote:
I'm 16.
So, you're less than half my age, you've seen fuck all of the world, you don't have a work record and you presume to give me lectures on how the world is and how it works?
Take this as a lesson, B2P: thinkig you can know what goes on in anothers head is a fools game. Making decisions or statements on that basis is even dumber.
quote:
By giving people lip you're sending out an intentionally hateful message, contrary to racist JOKES
I've never denied being an arrogant fucker, but I am an entirely equal opportunity arrogant fucker. And, racist jokes are sending out a deliberately hateful message. that is what they are for; they are not just jokes, remember, they are RACIST jokes.
quote:
Still, consider that you're condemning us for joking when you've said hurtful things too.
And as I have pointed out already, the attempt by you and others to pretend I am against jokes is a desperate attempt to evdade the issue. Having read your desperate screed of faux-victimisation, I have every reason to expect that you knew those jokes were hurtful, and that that is precisely why you told them. Your pretensions to "mere humour" are simply implausible.

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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 93 of 302 (130609)
08-05-2004 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by contracycle
08-05-2004 8:28 AM


So here is a suggestion.
How about we label the Jokes with a scarlet letter in the subtitle field. That way you will be saved from being hurt or offended if you just skip those posts.
We could use a system such as
A= ANIMALISTIC
B= BAUDY
C= CONTROVERSIAL
D= DEMONIC
E= ETHNIC
F= FAITH BASHING
G= GAY BASHING
H= HOMOSEXUAL HUMOR
I= INDIAN-COWBOY JOKES
...
That way if there is a letter in the sub-title (or more than one letter since a given joke might fall into several of the 26 categories) you can just skip it.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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contracycle
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Message 94 of 302 (130632)
08-05-2004 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by jar
08-05-2004 8:45 AM


Re: So here is a suggestion.
[qupte] That way if there is a letter in the sub-title (or more than one letter since a given joke might fall into several of the 26 categories) you can just skip it[/quote]
Or, how about if someone confirms to you that a certain topic will be offensive, you just not do it?
My opposition to racism is not limited to personal aesthetic distaste, and this board would still be serving as a venue for hate-speech.

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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 95 of 302 (130658)
08-05-2004 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by contracycle
08-05-2004 9:56 AM


Re: So here is a suggestion.
Nope. That is sily. If it is a one on one, that might be appropriate. In a public forum, it's not.
That was good old ROT13. Maybe we should bring it back.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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contracycle
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Message 96 of 302 (130662)
08-05-2004 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by jar
08-05-2004 11:46 AM


Re: So here is a suggestion.
quote:
Nope. That is sily. If it is a one on one, that might be appropriate. In a public forum, it's not.
I see, jar. So in a one on one conversation, it would be have been uncool for Goebbels to make racist remarks, but when he was standing on the platform at the Nurmburg rallies, it was clearly a public forum and so it would have been wrong to consider those who might be offended.
Your position is crystal clear.

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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 97 of 302 (130666)
08-05-2004 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by contracycle
08-05-2004 11:55 AM


Re: So here is a suggestion.
Good. ROTFLMAO

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 499 days)
Posts: 3645
From: Indianapolis, IN
Joined: 03-29-2004


Message 98 of 302 (130705)
08-05-2004 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by contracycle
08-05-2004 11:55 AM


Re: So here is a suggestion.
Trust me, I have seen racism face to face and I have been a victim of it. Yes, some jokes are used for the purpose of lowering others because of their ethnic background. However, and you can trust me on this, I haven't seen any of that on here.

The Laminator
For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!

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One_Charred_Wing
Member (Idle past 6178 days)
Posts: 690
From: USA West Coast
Joined: 11-21-2003


Message 99 of 302 (130781)
08-05-2004 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by contracycle
08-05-2004 8:28 AM


Re: Tolerance and maturity
So, you're less than half my age, you've seen fuck all of the world
I've seen my share of things that suck. If you want me to be specific then I will. No, I've never been out of the united states but I've seen somebody get shot in the face, or to be specific I heard a shot and a couple hours later saw my first dead body lying in the bushes(what was left of his head was visible and messy), although not well because it was behind police tape. I might be able to find the newspaper clipping and scan it if you want proof that people get shot, though.
Anyway, did that shake me awhile back? Of course it did! But do I let that ruin shot-in-the-face jokes for me? Of course not; they're hilarious! It was suspected that racism was one of the motives for the killing. Doesn't bother me, racist humor is still great comedy!
Take this as a lesson, B2P: thinkig you can know what goes on in anothers head is a fools game.
Please, you assumed I was born in a barn, and maybe you still do. You seem to think I'm some innocent little kid who thinks that God won't let you get hurt. Pfft. You can always tell who's seen some rough stuff by how they can laugh about it. It's only those who have been sheltered that are afraid to joke about big bad reality.
I've never denied being an arrogant fucker, but I am an entirely equal opportunity arrogant fucker. And, racist jokes are sending out a deliberately hateful message. that is what they are for; they are not just jokes, remember, they are RACIST jokes.
You send out a hateful message by insulting people just like anybody else. It's just that your target happens to be an individual in front of you. A racist joke is aimed at a fictional, stereotypical person(s) of a particular race. Said individuals probably don't exist.
I know you're not against jokes, you're against racism. So am I. If you want to read my essay on why racism is stupid I'll post that up.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit. http://www.BadPreacher.5u.com (incomplete, but look anyway!)

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contracycle
Inactive Member


Message 100 of 302 (130937)
08-06-2004 6:35 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by One_Charred_Wing
08-05-2004 5:49 PM


Re: Tolerance and maturity
[qupte] Anyway, did that shake me awhile back? Of course it did! But do I let that ruin shot-in-the-face jokes for me? Of course not; they're hilarious! It was suspected that racism was one of the motives for the killing. Doesn't bother me, racist humor is still great comedy![/quote]
Point proven, I suspect.
[qupte] You send out a hateful message by insulting people just like anybody else. It's just that your target happens to be an individual in front of you. A racist joke is aimed at a fictional, stereotypical person(s) of a particular race. Said individuals probably don't exist.[/quote]
Of course they don't exist - the purpose is to create a fictional impression which replaces actual data.
quote:
I know you're not against jokes, you're against racism. So am I. If you want to read my essay on why racism is stupid I'll post that up.
Please, and I really mean this, don't bother. I have looked at your site and its "anti-racist" message about standing up for whitey. Its the same old reactionary racist claptrap I've seen so many, many times before. I can predict your argument, and my own responses to it, with a very high degree of accuracy. It's exactly this spoiled-brat martyr complex that characterises racism, and your "anti-racism" is really just a cover for actual racism, B2P.

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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1415 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 101 of 302 (130939)
08-06-2004 7:34 AM


Present Company Included
Q: What do you have when you've got a pandering PC busybody buried up to his neck in sand?
A: Not enough sand.
regards,
Esteban Hambre

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6497 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 102 of 302 (130940)
08-06-2004 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by MrHambre
08-06-2004 7:34 AM


Re: Present Company Included
Q: What do you call a sunken boat at the bottom of the ocean with a pandering busybody on board?
A: A good start
Regards
Mam "not pandering" muthus

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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1415 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 103 of 302 (130943)
08-06-2004 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by Mammuthus
08-06-2004 7:39 AM


Re: Present Company Included
It's not often I put down the bong and type with both hands, but your refusal to deal with my argument is typical of racist scum. Okay, calling my ill-informed collection of non-sequiturs, insults, and rhetoric an "argument" is like calling a puddle in a parking lot "Lake Champlain." But it's all I've got.
I find your joke offensive. I have e-mailed the administrators and their parents to complain about this board being used as an outlet for joke-terrorism, and someone wrote back and told me to piss up a rope. I assume this means they agree with the gist of my claim.
The South African Nautical Commission (formerly Krazy Klauss's Cash and Carry, Ltd.) reports that the overwhelming majority of victims of sunken-ship-related hate crimes are wet. Your type of joking only further entrenches the dry power elite and serves as reinforcement and legitimization of the systematic dehumanization of a historically oppressed minority. Ditto for the ship-in-a-bottle manufacturers, who are similarly contributing to the oppression of drowning victims everywhere.
regards,
Esteban "Hey, Sailor" Hambre

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contracycle
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Message 104 of 302 (130946)
08-06-2004 8:48 AM


The standard advice for getting out ogf a hole is to first stop digging, idiots. I'm not sure what your particular kink in ritual public self-humiliation might be, but you're both doing a sterling job of achieving it.

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6497 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 105 of 302 (130947)
08-06-2004 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by MrHambre
08-06-2004 8:34 AM


Re: Present Company Included
I rarely interupt my rolling of bums for change to type with either hand but your comparison of "dry" and "wet" is typical Scumian bias. It is standard in biology to compare relative production of dampness since dry and wet could lead to subjective thought in science. I read this on the wall of a bathroom I stopped in to puke up my schnitzel so as not to dehumanize anorexics by digesting my food.
I have sent an email to random addresses asking for money...I mean complaining to the administrator and have not heard back. I assume this is because they agree with me so much they feel no need to say anything.
Your avatar is also clearly designed to dehumanize fat people by showing round objects. It does not matter if fat people see your avatar, know people who see your avatar, or if your avatar actually exists. Somewhere somebody is dehumanized by it because I think they could think so...do you have a reading comprehension problem or what?
Mam "pseudo PC martyr" muthus

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