"The Exodus Revealed" Video II

He has expertise in marine research and exploration as well as Egyptian history and the Biblical record, not to mention all of his other knowledge. Nobody's yet shown him to be otherwise. The bottom line is that he is, so far, the formost expert on the Nuweiba crossing site relative to the subject of this thread. Whenever you or any of your colleagues or the National Geographic's Marine man, Ballard or whoever wishes to go out there and top his achievements, then you can speak with some authority. Until then, you're an unexperienced armchair quarterback complaining about the professional one out there making the yardage and taking the hits.

Mmmm, known cranks. As in known cranks of the imperical Exodus crossing evidence?

Hi Ned. Where in the world can go to see how the first living cell came to be, how DNA came to be, how the sexes evolved in all living creatures and while we're showing and telling, how I can view the evidence of a closed system universe?But we are one up on you. We have the video of the photographed evidence, the existence of which nobody has even attempted to refute by on site inspection. Have you viewed the video? We have it, Ned. You people don't have it for much of your alleged imperical stuff.

Jim, do you sometimes get the feeling we are visiting the primary school department with this evidence? Upon my arrival on EvC, way back when, I was admonished by admin to refrain from posting in the science threads because I was resorting to common sense and logic rather than from the secularistic scientific approach of doing the math, trusting and accepting dating methods, etc. If I had resorted to some of the stuff these people are lowering themselves to in this debate, I'd have been soundly admonished. But alas, these people get by scott free with narry a peep. It's stuff like this, like Yaro's photos of the ship valve wheels and like Jar's rock photos form here and there that drove the old thread to 58 pages. All these silly things needed to be addressed by us. Then professional people like Eta, who should know better would pop in now and then with nothing to contribute but sarcastic insultive negative remarks aimed at posters who were doing all the work.Then too, it kind of like loosers buying time by philibustering as they do in Congress.This is not to say that all counterpart posts are not in good faith and taste. Some posters are more reasonable and sensible in debate.I've said the above to say this: Hopefully some of our counterparts will begin to post less of this incessant yada about no evidence and stick to refutation of the specific evidences presented. In other words, let's all please cut to the chase. for the ultimate emergence of truth. Hopefully, that's what we all want.

You've been told repeatedly that restrictions are in place as to how much testing is permisable and what evidence we have, being the chariot parts as researched from both East and West shores along with the corroborating other evidences. Why don't you stick to refuting all this stuff we have rather than repeated demands for more? Secular cience doesn't have all the links and data on all their alleged claims. Why don't you allow us the same consideration?

We are claiming there are none being used by the researchers we are referencing. If you think there are, it's up to you to produce. That's what you demand of us. Turn about's fair play. If you think there are better alternatives, show us something better. That burden lies on you, again, just the same as you demand of us. Please refrain from cluttering the thread with unspecified questions and begin producing productive input posts. ......And if you will approach this thread objectively and in good faith, you will not only acknowledge the evidence that has been presented but will learn all you can about the facts of the matter as those who've produced the evidence have.

Ned, there's a whole lot more than the few items you've mentioned. Rather than having us go to all the work of repeating them why don't you go back and do some reading in the existing 43 pages of the original thread and then get back to us in the morning. OK bud?This message has been edited by buzsaw, 08-06-2004 10:46 PM

Jar, you too. Please go back and do some reading. That's what we have. There's more than coral down there. That's obvious to anyone who cares to see it. If you don't wish to acknowledge what has been produced, that's your perogerative. It's all been gone over and over and over and over, etc. Imo, it's senseless to repeat it all again.

Again, I repeat repetitive repetition, repetititiously repedted.1. Take a good look at the obviously once solid boulder, split right down the middle, not eroded.
2. Take a look at the rock relative to the other other corroborative evidence. Nothing else on the planet with any sigificance at all.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

But you're being disingenuously insensitive to all the work and time we all have put into the first thread, not so much by me as the others who've detailed it all. What you are asking for is there to read. Why are you asking us to repeat it again when you can click and read? Do you think that's all we have to do in our busy lives is repeat stuff over and over? Why should this thread need to ramble on page after page with stuff already posted and readable?

I repeatedly repeat, Jar. When are you gona get it?1. Yours is obviously preformed and/or eroded. Ours is obviously a one time solid boulder split down the middle.2. Yours and none other in the world have the corroborating evidence to make it significant for the purpose of this thread topic.3. Ours has obvious waterflow evidence as in the Biblical record which your doesn't have.Maybe I should copy and paste this so as to have it ready when again needed as it seems will likely be the case.

And you pros who should know better and who are not versed in the matter at hand should do the scientific thing and set out to scientifically debunk the evidence presented rather than outright reject it. You are the closed minded unscientific acting individuals who attack the researchers doing the work rather than on the evidence. 1. How about you, Eta, opening a thread proving your allegations against Wyatt and documenting the specific cases in which you think that Wyatt has deliverately lied and fabricated?2. I have read the objections of ICR to Wyatt's discoveries and I'm afraid, though ICR is good in some areas they are dead wrong on Wyatt's claims. They've proven nothing. I've corresponded in years past about this and the reasons they gave for rejection are pure biased conjecture on their part. After all, both Henry Morris Jr and Sr have made expeditions to the big Mt Aarat in search of the ark up on the high steeps. Their materials have it that it's gotta be up there and they're still looking there, but that just isn't Biblically the case. LOL! Besides it nuts, imo to think the hoofed animals and such could get off and survive from the rocky ledges. ..........And some of you pros here who claim to be scientists, should aside your bias and begin to act like the scientists you clam to be.

The problem with your doltish attempt at refute here, Nighttrain, is that it wouldn't be difficult to video a wall with gold in some mine and call it yours. Lots of them exist. Hows about you besting Yaro who entertained us with the corral encrusted valves and produce another shot like we have here of obvious chariot parts in quantity at another location on the planet? LOL!!It's downright hilarious and laughable to observe some of the desperate tacticts you people resort to and attempt to pass of as refutative debate. Do you imagine you're debating the local school primary dept or what??

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

Yes, ditto!! I have it now in my documents. The work, interest and effort you had to have went to in producing this this is indicative to the quality of input you and your brother have brought on behalf of creationists on this board. Too bad so much of it was lost. At least your willing to pick up move on where many would've simply quit. Thanks very much and may God richly bless you for it!

Oh ho ho! Listen to the town physicist here, John. He teaches physics. He's a vaaary highly educated dude, John, likely a phd. You better listen up, now, John. Hee's thee athoritee with thee degree, you see. ......And John, wouldn't it be even more strange if highly biased people like Eta, such as are most secularist scientists, brainwashed into evolution to even give a dang about proving something supernatural to exist in the universe? Why are'nt they there. Plain and simple-- they're chicken and afraid to go, for what they might have to acknowledge as good honest and objective scientists.......And think of the devastation it would do to their entire ideological empire? Oh, yes, John, do listen to our ever so unbiased and objective mainstream media. Being so open minded, they'd surely be swarming the place looking for anything so they could just retool their secularist empire and begin to think and broadcast in terms of the supernatural.Btw, Biblical fundies are beginning to see the light here and many are jumping on the truth wagon here. Hopefully ICR will dump their own bias and/or be compelled by the evidence to come aboard.If there are any ICR (Institute for Creation Research), El Cajon, Ca fans or staff lurking here, hopefully they will come aboard and attempt to defend their position, offering us an explanation for their rejection of the Nueiba crossing and the Arabian Mt. Sinai. I searched the web and came up with nothing concerning them and the chariot parts discovery. I do know they have to be rejecting it as valid since they reject the rest of the corroborating evidence. They however offer no better alternative such as some archeological reason to accept the traditional site in Sinai.This message has been edited by buzsaw, 08-08-2004 01:53 AM