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Author Topic:   Flies and birds share flight-specific gene use
Peter
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Message 4 of 14 (13139)
07-09-2002 4:12 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Tranquility Base
07-09-2002 2:30 AM


This basically falls back to the 'it could be
common descent or common design' statement depending
solely on how you choose to interpret this
data.
It advances neither side of the debate to continue.

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Peter
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Message 6 of 14 (13157)
07-09-2002 9:49 AM
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07-09-2002 8:10 AM


The abstract linked in your first post has ::
'Recent comparative developmental analyses demonstrate that
many of the mechanisms used to pattern limbs are ancient. One of the major consequences of this phenomenon is parallelism in the
evolution of anatomical structures.'
Which suggests that the full paper is using this evidence as
support for parallelism in evolution, or as having a positive
impact on the possibility of such parallelism.
The premise seems to be that since these genetic mechanism are
very ancient, they have been retained and re-used.
Do you have the full paper ?

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Peter
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Message 12 of 14 (13330)
07-11-2002 3:19 AM
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07-11-2002 2:25 AM


... but you have not even responded to my arguments
against your 4 points, purley on the basis that you
consider them story telling.
If you haven't thought your ideas through enough to
rebutt me, why do you expect a panel of 'experts' to
take your claims seriously ?

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Peter
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Message 14 of 14 (13704)
07-17-2002 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Tranquility Base
07-09-2002 8:36 PM


If you have the same start point and broadly similar
selective pressures in respect of this one gene, would
that effect the likelihood of current ToE thinking to
account for the similarity ?

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