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Hangdawg13
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Message 249 of 284 (134237)
08-16-2004 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by jar
08-16-2004 12:31 AM


Re: So what is absolute morality?
I think I see what you are saying.
For example, in the civil war:
A Virginian might be fighting to maintain freedom, status quo, and his state's sovereignty. A Yankee might be fighting to preserve the unity of the nation and end the South's form of slavery.
On the battlefield, both could fight and die honorably in the right even though the war itself may be wrong.
Many situations are unique and every variable must be considered to determine whether an action is right or wrong.

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Hangdawg13
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From: Texas
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Message 252 of 284 (134577)
08-17-2004 5:01 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by nator
08-04-2004 9:13 PM


Re: Nope
It evolved along with all the other social senses and emotions we have as a means to communicate and interact with each other, and they also tend to maintain clan or group identification.
I will drop the whole evolution debate within this debate, since I currently have no position on evolution.
Of course, the Christian may be less willing to fight and die for virtues and beliefs because they believe that they are "saved", and thus guaranteed a place in heaven.
Being saved is no excuse for being a coward, and I don't know of any specific case of someone becoming more cowardly BECAUSE they were saved.
or because they do not believe they have to do good works towards their fellow man to earn their place in heaven.
There is much said to warn believers of taking this mindset particularly in James. If one does not love and forgive his neighbor he does not love God.
Ah, but yes, I can certinly objectively show you evidence to suggest that a sense of right and wrong are products of evolution.
Yes, that's some very interesting information, but what does it have to do with the relative existence of right and wrong? Even the animals have a sense for it. What's right is right. What's wrong is wrong. You can't get away from it.

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Hangdawg13
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Message 258 of 284 (135109)
08-18-2004 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by nator
08-18-2004 6:24 PM


Re: Nope
What do you call the fundamentalist Christians who do what they can to escalate and promote the conflict in the middle east because they believe that by doing this they will bring about Armageddon?
Stupid.
What about the Christians, like Buzsaw and PecodGeorge, who are all too willing to forget all about "love thy neighbor" and "do unto others" when Muslims are concerned?
I don't know what you are speaking of specifically so I cannot judge.
Just because they aren't "supposed" to think this way according to you doesn't mean that millions of Christians don't, in fact, think this way.
So what's your point? The path that leads to salvation is narrow.
I am saying that there is no absolute right and wrong.
What is right or wrong is relative to the culture and situation, always.
Okay, whatever.. I'm tired of this fruitless debate anyways.

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