Giant People in the bible?

The scientific method looks for the best explanation rather than proof.Given the rarity of fossils that preserve the soft tissues to anything like that degree, the shortage of genuine fossils of hominids that size and the poor provenance of the alleged find that it is a fraud is the best explanation we have.It certainly can't be considered as offering any real support to the claimed existence of giants.

You will probably win the bet Charles! LoLBut seriously, I would be willing to spend my time to investigate it further. I understand that it probably seems pretty pointless and a waste of time trying to track down some old alleged bones, but I like to investigate this sort of thing in my free time.Anyways, I'll keep you guys heads up.By the way I agree with you Paul, that the 12-foot fossil mummy man screams of hoax.

oh sure - it's an interesting story, but I've been a "skeptic" for many years, I've never see a claim yet that does not involve some slight of hand.Look at my blood of jesus thread - a 100% fraud.

I can't keep a strait face when I think of that blood of Jesus claim.
What was Wyatt thinking?

we are getting off-topic now, but I'd think that it was all done because of mental illness rather than any bad intent.

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Attached is another picture of a coffin with a 12 foot mummy in it which was stored in London's Broad-street goods depot for some time, was photographed by a reporter, then published in Strand Magazine in 1895. (Notice its size as it leans up
against a railway passenger carriage.)

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Just to muddy the water, I have found an alternate provenance of this figure:Image Gallery | Unexplained Mysteries

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Fossilized giant discovered in 1895 by Mr. Dyer during minerary activities in County Antrim, Ireland. In the photo (published by the British magazine "Strand") it is compared to a goods wagon. The main measures were: total height 12ft and 2 in (3.70 m), thoracic circumference 6ft and 6in (1.97 m), length of arms 4ft and 6in (1.37 m), weight 2 tons and 112 lbs (2050 Kg). The right foot had six fingers. After various legal debates to determine the ownership, nobody knows what happened to the giant.

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Note the visual similarity to the Cardiff giant:
Image Gallery | Unexplained MysteriesNot that any of this is sourced, of course

I always think of this when I see Ron's work:http://www.stuffucanuse.com/...on_landings/moon_landings.htm

Thanks for the info. I think this can prettymuch convince me that the fossil giant is a hoax just like the Cardiff. Back in th 19th century they got big bucks for circus sideshow props like these.

LoL...

A lot of these tales seem to recycle, so if we see 'More Unsolved Mysteries' or the ilk appearing, we are sure to find old favourites. I did a quick Google on gigantism (giantism) and much seems to remain a mystery. However, it doesn`t appear to be common or genetic, so we wouldn`t expect to find a tribe of giants. Now, little people are another story. :-P
Sorry, forgot a site
http://www.mdtext.com/...trics/pediatrics1b/pediatrics1b.htmThis message has been edited by Nighttrain, 08-18-2004 11:47 PM

No, but we do see "tribes" of exceptionally tall people in parts of Africa and even South America.I don't know of any genetic predisposition to gigantism, but actual families and tribes of individuals who pass on genes of tall stature is a common occurence.Again, look at some of the tribes in Africa where individuals 7-feet and even taller are a common occurance. These are individuals like the 7'7" NBA player Manute Bol, who was a meber of the Dinka tribe in southern Sudan. His father was 6ft7, and his grandfather was 7ft1. Therefore, I wouldn't say it is a far stretch to assume that tribes and family members of "giants" do exist, and existed in the past.(giants, being individuals within 2-3 metres)

yes but you would not have to go much further to hit the square cubed law.

Exactly.For example, it would be highly doubtful a perfectly proportioned human 12 feet tall could ever exist. That would be in defiance of the cube law, or ~8 times the wieght of a human with the same body frame. Some one that enormous would have their bones break under each step, and their heart couldn't pump blood efficiently.It is within speculation that a human that tall might have existed if he were very light in weight compared to his height.But the tallest man that has been reliably measured within the last hundred years, was the pre-acromegalic giant Robert wadlow of Alton, Ill who was measured on June 27, 1940 by Dr. C. M. Charles, Associate Professor of Anatomy at Washington University School of Medicine, in St. Louis, and was found to be 8 foot 11 and 1/10 inches tall, and he weighed 439 lbs at the time.

Many of you may have already heard about a story circulating the internet about a giant human skeleton discovered in Saudi Arabia by oil workers. That story was published by "The New Nation" http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/exec/view.cgi/10/8519It turns out the picture attached to the story was a fake from a photoshop contest at worth1000.com It clearly shows signs of photoshop manipulation.However, I did some investigation recently, and it seems that the story about a discovery in Saudi Arabia of a giant human skeleton may have some truth behind it. This image is allegedly of an actual giant human skeleton that was found by Saudi ARAMCO oil workers in the summer of 2000.Read the article at: http://objective.jesussave.us/creationnews.htmlI wanted to know everyones opinion about this photograph?
I certainly am skeptical about it. But it does seems quite real looking at first glance. I have studied it for a couple hours using negatives to see if there is any sign of photoshop manipulation and I haven't really seen any.I know that this photo is not in any way solid evidence for human giants, but I just wanted to share it with you so I could hear your opinions about it.By the way, I calculated that the skeleton would have to be of an individual atleast 11-12 feet tall when living.{Fixed UBB img code - Adminnemooseus}This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 09-13-2004 11:35 AM

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The jaw of the skull seems to have fallen down flat against the spine, which is consistent with rigor mortis.