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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I don't care about organizations I haven't heard before... You have not heard of the Episcopal Church, Roman Catholic Church, Lutheran Church, Presbyterian Church? Come on now. Add in the CofE and you have the vast, vast majority of Christians world wide. But specifically, I am a Christian that fully supports the TOE. There is absolutely no conflict between Christianity and the TOE. Religion deals with the question of WHY, science deals with the HOWS. Two areas of study, mutually supportive. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Science does not deal in WHY. Science deals with HOW.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, you certainly didn't prove much so far.
Evolution deals with the origin of Species. It has nothing to do with the origin of life. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
He has obviously never seen a crystal.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Understanding is not a part of Evolution. Survival is.
Honestly, for millions and millions of years critters evolved without understanding one little thing about evolution. We are just fortunate enough to be able to begin to understand what happened. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well.. my aim was not to persuade anybody to believe in God, and only in God.... my aim was to show a proof against the evolution. But there is no conflict between believing in GOD and the Theory of Evolution. They are totally unrelated issues. That's why almost all Christian Churches support the Theory of Evolution and oppose teaching Creationism. That's one of the reasons that your posts were so illogical. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There is a big conflict in believing in God and theory of evolution, I prooved it. Well, no, you kept asserting that but you never offered any proof or even any evidence. On the other hand, once again, here is a short list of the Christian and Jewish churches that support the Theory of Evolution and oppose the teaching of Creationism.
quote: So the Episcopal, Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist and Presbyterian Churches have all said that there is no problems between believing in GOD and the Theory of Evolution. This has been shown to you several times now. There is no conflict between Evolution and a belief in GOD or Christianity. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I am not a member of any churches ... All mentioned are full of fools and hypocrites. If they believe in evolution, it's just a proof they are. I had to find it, it took me some time, in fact, I haven't read Bible so far, only very few parts, but I'll change it soon. I rest my case. Quote mining is not the way to worship. It does not matter if you are picking quotes from the Bible or crackpot sites like ICR and AIG. Once you begin to learn a little bit about Christianity, perhaps you'll be prepared to debate. In the menatime, pushing a literal interpretation of Genesis is not only bad science, it's lousy theology. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Genetic code can't decide to create an exact mutation it wants and repeat it again and again and again and again. Exactly. Finally you are getting there. As I pointed out to you what seems like years ago, all of the changes are simply random. There is no plan. There is no wanted change to genetic code, no direction, no purpose. The changes happen. The reason evolution works is the Natural Selection filter. When all the mutations are run through the Natural Selection filter, those that help the critter live long enough to reproduce succeed and the critters have evolved. It is as simple as that. No plan, no designer, just chance and a filter. Any problems with that so far? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Both of us now why you haven't mentioned insect wings, for example. Sure. They haven't been mentioned because the development stages are so well known and understandable that there is simply no question of the evolution. It's one of the prime proofs of evolution. Often we fail to mention those issues that are so basic we assume every child knows about them. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
As Percy so rightly pointed out, I neglected to provide a link to the issue on insect wings. Please pardon me for falling into the same trap I warned of. I should have provided the link in my previous post.
Mea Culpa. A short summary is that systems may have had other purposes originally. One good example is the insect wing beginning as a means of temperature control and only later evolving into a flight system.
Here is a link to SJ Gould's report pointing not just to the hypothesis, but experiments that tested that hypothesis. The same could be true of feathers. Initially they may have served other function, display purposes, temperature control, protection or some yet unimagined purpose and only later evolved into flight surfaces. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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