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joshua221  Inactive Member |
quote: quote: quote: quote: quote: It says the major alloying agents added to titanium. Am I right? "Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Ephesians 5:14
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
When you see some of those names, run, don't walk, to the nearest exit.
Richard Rives, having become acquainted with an international corporation which specialized in metallurgy, made arrangements for the "rivet" to be analyzed in their laboratory. The guy is a nutcase. Check out his improved microscope. Note that they don't say who did the analysis. They implie that it was Galbraith Labs in Knoxville, Tennessee but there is nothing connecting the results with anything and the sample has gone missing. It's classic Ron Wyatt and crew. They are liars and con men. One hundred years ago they wouold have been selling snake oil from the back of a wagon and holding revivals on the weekends. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Maybe this still isn't enough for me, the sceptics can say what they want but I think maybe this guy isn't a "con-man", liar or cheat. Maybe he is valid, maybe I'm not the one missing something. I don't know, I haven't talked to him, seen him (before the site), or known of past experiences where he had supposedly lied...
"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Ephesians 5:14
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 735 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Titanium is also a terrifically difficult metal to extract from the ore or to work into finished forms. Maybe Noah found some discarded high-tech golf clubs to rework into rivets?
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, spend some time at the site. If you can honestly look at his evidence and not come away laughing your ass off, then fine. Come back and say YOU believe and that will be accepted. Ask us to believe and we'll laugh OUR asses off.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Not about to take a road trip to turkey lol.
Maybe this summer, I'll be driving then > "Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Ephesians 5:14
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BONES Inactive Member |
Consider this:
Noah took two of every animal into his boat. The number of land species on earth is roughly 18,000,000 according to the World Resources Institute and National Geographic. Now add to that the number of freshwater animals. The supplies required for all of these animals and the containers for them would be enormous. Nearly all of the animals would have to be separated or they might eat each other. In addition, we know that in order for a species to survive it must reproduce and if one of the two creatures dies then the species will become extinct. Taking the numbers from the slave trade, where often 50% of the Africans did not survive, the number of animals present must have been close to 50,000,000 (that includes doubling the species (2 of each), adding the freshwater and being generous on the number which would die on the trip). Separate containers, along with provisions and a HUGE abundance of fresh water for drinking and for the fresh water animals would have weighed an enormous amount that no tanker even today made of METAL could withstand. The ark was made of wood. . . . or was it My guess is that Noah didn't just have one ark, but about 5 million metal Arks ? .............or then again mabye, just maybe Noah never had an Ark ? Homer: Hey, Flanders, heading for church? Well, I thought I could save you a little time. Ned: Oooh, found a new shortcut. Homer: Better. I was working on a flat tax proposal and I accidentally proved there's no God. [shows Flanders a sheet of paper with complex figuring on it] Ned: [flustered] We'll just see about that. [reads the paper] Uh-oh. Well, maybe he made a mistake. [checks it again] Nope, it's airtight. Can't let this little doozy get out. [uses a lighter to burn the "proof"] [in the background, Homer puts more copies of his no- God paper on the windshields of nearby cars]
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
prophex once again avoids a direct question:
quote:quote: Non sequitur. I didn't ask you what. I asked you WHERE.
[I][B]WHERE IS THE ARK?[/i][/b] quote: Then why do you trust your source? If nobody has managed to bring it down from wherever it is and put it in a controlled environment for study and analysis, what on earth makes you think that it's what you claim it is?
quote:quote: (*blink!*) You did not just say that, did you? The truth isn't useful?
quote:quote: It isn't a gotcha question. I really want to know. If we found it, where is it? There are untold numbers of people who are willing to help in its excavation, catalog, study, and exhibition. Where is it? Rrhain WWJD? JWRTFM!
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Hey,Kiwi,doncherknow Noah only took 'kinds'. A pair of two-legged, a pair of four-legged. two birdies, two of them fishy thingoes,etc. You can track the transitional forms from Ararat all the way to their new homes wherever. Bones like you wouldn`t believe. All laid out in sequence.
Btw, love your Homer X-ray.
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portmaster1000 Inactive Member |
Found this article today about Turkey rejecting the planned expedition for the Ark.
Turkey denies Honolulu man’s bid to find Ark I wonder why Lysimachus is so certain even before such a critical piece of evidence gathering has taken place. thanxPM1K
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contracycle Inactive Member |
404 Not Found
This is the picture of the alleged ark. It's meant to be in the red circle; I do not know what the blue arrows are meant to indicate. See also here for original article:404
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The section in the red circle is alleged to be an exposed part of the structure of the ark itself while the blue lines are alleged to be the outline of the boat. Because it's curved they believe it outlines one of the side structures.
It's been an issue since the photos were released in the late 70's IIRC. But it simply looks like a rocky outcrop and a ridge line to many. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
This is a double post. First time around I got an internal server error. I used the back button tried to resubmit and then found the earlier attempt had succeeded.
This message has been edited by jar, 09-15-2004 10:28 AM Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Here's a question for you
If:
quote: Why does the analysis reported not mention Vanadium AT ALL and report "<0.1%" Chromium (which may well mean "too little to measure"). Why is there so much more Iron and Aluminium than Titanium ? (>8% Fe and Al <2% Ti). Come to that, why does the supposed "petrified wood" seem to contain more Titanium (~1.9%) than the supposed remains of a Titanium-alloy washer (~1.6%) ? And why isn't there less Fe, Al, Mn OR Cr in the "petrified wood" ?Surely the remains of a metal washer should contain more of the metal (even in oxide form) than the surrounding wood.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The story from Ron's site is even better.
When an object undergoes the process of fossilization, as its material decays it is replaced by material in the surrounding soil or water. The analysis revealed exactly what would be expected to be found in a fossilized metal washer and rivet (non-living matter) attached to a piece of fossilized wood (once living matter). Note:The discovery of titanium in the "Rivet" is of special interest. The advantage of titanium as a metal is its tremendous strength, its light weight and its resistance to corrosion. All of the analyses performed on the "Rivet" found it to contain Iron, Aluminum, Manganese, Vanadium and Chromium. These elements are known today to be the major alloying agents added to titanium. Note that they found fossilized metal. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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