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Author Topic:   How many Creationists here believe in the Caveman?
Buzsaw
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Message 16 of 28 (142634)
09-15-2004 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Dan Carroll
09-15-2004 12:46 PM


This raises the question of why those who have become pagan and depraved spiritually and morally (by your standards) in this day and age don't suddenly lose the ability to use a can opener.

I mean... crimney, Lakeview'd be like the opening scene of 2001.

1. The headhunters of New Gineau, the Voodo folks in Haite and other such depraved cultures did not get that way in a couple of generations. It took a long time. American pagans are only a few generations from majority Protestant Christian forbears.

2. Pagan cultures didn't invent and produce the cans and can openers.

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crashfrog
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Message 17 of 28 (142641)
09-16-2004 12:31 AM
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09-15-2004 10:18 PM


Pagan cultures didn't invent and produce the cans and can openers.

The Chinese invented paper money, gun powder, pasta, and the printing press; I'd say those are some substantial accomplishments by a so-called "pagan" culture.


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Message 18 of 28 (142655)
09-16-2004 3:48 AM
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09-15-2004 10:18 PM


Pagan cultures invented drying, salting/brining, pickling, and fermenting as methods of food preservation.


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Message 19 of 28 (142659)
09-16-2004 4:23 AM
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09-15-2004 10:18 PM


I'm just curious as to how you could consciously ignore the many cultures that predate the Hebrew without any sense of uneasiness?


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Message 20 of 28 (142690)
09-16-2004 9:44 AM
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09-15-2004 10:18 PM


2. Pagan cultures didn't invent and produce the cans and can openers.

Pagans invented coinage, writing, mining, the iron age, the bronze age, boats, mapping, discovered the diameter of the earth, mapped the heavens, invented clothing, domesticated animals, wheat and bread, fermenting, developed corn...


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Message 21 of 28 (142694)
09-16-2004 10:01 AM
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09-15-2004 10:18 PM


muslims invented zero. of course people will argue with me that other people under the slavery of muslims invented zero and the muslims stole it, but those people are uneducated, racist bastards.

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Loudmouth
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Message 22 of 28 (142736)
09-16-2004 12:54 PM
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09-16-2004 10:01 AM


quote:
muslims invented zero.

And the Mayans, a depraved pagan central american culture, invented zero as well.


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Loudmouth
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Message 23 of 28 (142737)
09-16-2004 12:57 PM
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09-15-2004 10:18 PM


quote:
1. The headhunters of New Gineau, the Voodo folks in Haite and other such depraved cultures did not get that way in a couple of generations. It took a long time. American pagans are only a few generations from majority Protestant Christian forbears.

You have yet to show that there were sophisticated cultures prior to the "cave man" so you claim is not supported.

quote:
2. Pagan cultures didn't invent and produce the cans and can openers.

No, but they did invent calculus more than 1400 years before christian culture did. In fact, it was christian culture that erased (ie burned or copied over) these pieces of technology and knowledge.


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Dan Carroll
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Message 24 of 28 (142739)
09-16-2004 1:08 PM
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09-15-2004 10:18 PM


I'll throw one on the pile as well... ancient Greece?

They were pretty much the foundation of modern civilization, and they were polytheists who engaged in quite a bit of homosexuality.

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-Stewie Griffin

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 25 of 28 (142740)
09-16-2004 1:19 PM
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09-16-2004 12:54 PM


probably. they also predicted the end of the world.... i'm not having children before that date... just in case.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 26 of 28 (142742)
09-16-2004 1:31 PM
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09-16-2004 1:19 PM


You should try and time it so your first kid is born on December 23rd, 2012. That way, if the world ends the day before, no big. If not, yay!


"Good evening. I'm playing the role of Jesus; a man once portrayed on the big screen by Jeffery Hunter. You may remember him as the actor who was replaced by William Shatner on Star Trek. Apparently Mr. Hunter was good enough to die for our sins, but not quite up to the task of seducing green women."
-Stewie Griffin

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 27 of 28 (142766)
09-16-2004 3:10 PM
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09-16-2004 1:31 PM


naturally.

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Message 28 of 28 (142779)
09-16-2004 3:51 PM


I think this topic has lived long enough - closing
It probably wouldn't have passed the "Proposed New Topic" procedure.

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