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Author Topic:   If being Christian is so great, why is the music so bad?
riVeRraT
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Message 86 of 99 (143156)
09-19-2004 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by nator
03-24-2002 7:32 AM


why is it so difficult to find good Christian music?
Because your not Christian.

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riVeRraT
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Message 87 of 99 (143158)
09-19-2004 12:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by nator
03-16-2002 6:18 PM


Pillar,
Switchfoot,
Warren Barrfield,
Third Day,
Creed, and so on.
It is getting better.
Any questions you have about Christian music schraf, I would be glad to answer. I have learned a lot about it since being saved 9 months ago. I have played piano, and keyboards for 35 years, and I have been playing on "The Worship team" at my church for about 7 months. I am now the assistant leader of the team.
I think the problem you might be having is that the music is inspired by the Holy Spirit. If you do not reconize the Holy Spirit, then it would be hard for you to fully appreciate the music.
A lot of the contemporary music you hear is worship music which is slightly different than just good music written by Christians. It might be hard for you to appreciate worship music if you are not worshiping God. Worship music has to contain certain elements so that everyone can enjoy it, and worship together. Just like its more fun for a group of youngsters to sing row row row your boat around a camp fire than singing Saturday nights alright for fighting, by Elton John.
I used to personally laugh at it no more than a year ago. I didn't think it was anything, until I got saved. Now the feeling I get from it is nothing short of Godly.
Also the radio station itself can have a lot to do with it, some play better music than others. I would recommend going to like a Christian living store, where they have a computer loaded with music, that you can sample, and see what you like. What kind of music are you looking for?
I also experienced my baptism of the Holy Spirit listening to the worship team that I now play on. they are blessed and filled with the Holy Spirit. I take my role there very seriously. It carries a lot of responsibility. I need to be following God throughout my life in everything I do, otherwise I do not beling up there playing for him(God).
I really wish you could come visit my church and hear us play. I don't know if it would do anything for you, but you never know. I know we have gone at each other in other threads, but I do like you, and wish the best for you, and your husband.
*edited to add something*
Chris is right, there is no such thing as Christian music, only Christian lyrics. We are now practicing the song, Reason by hoop-a-stank. The lyrics can fit right in, if you mean it towards God.
Our Chruch will play secular music if the lyrics can fit.
This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 09-18-2004 11:50 PM

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riVeRraT
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Message 88 of 99 (143160)
09-19-2004 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by nator
07-26-2004 12:49 PM


The idea that our government is Christian in nature is silly. It is based more upon the ideals of the Enlightenment, which are secular, humanist values.
Then please explain this statement schraf:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Note the words creator, and created.
Then explain this:
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
Please note the words "supreme judge of the world" and "sacred honor"

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riVeRraT
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Message 89 of 99 (143161)
09-19-2004 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Gup20
05-12-2004 2:37 PM


Thats an awesome web-site. Our web-site could use some music on it too. If I was closer, I would come visit you guys for sure.
I am a worship leader here:
http://www.clcnj.org/contact.html
Peace

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riVeRraT
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Message 90 of 99 (143162)
09-19-2004 1:05 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by contracycle
07-26-2004 4:48 AM


But with all the anger and angst removed, they are just going through the motions.
You mean no-one in the bible got angry :confused
Of course you can be angry, Christians go through the same crap everyone else does, plus more.
As far as I can tell, thats exactly what it's about; the main virtues of christiabity all seemt o do with obedience, keeping your mouth shut and your nose to the grindstone for the bosses.
Poopy. I am human.
Though Shalt Not... If its NOT a bunch of rules, what is it for? The whole thing operates on a premise of blackmial: follow these instructions or suffer.
You can follow the instructions and still suffer.

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riVeRraT
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Message 93 of 99 (143166)
09-19-2004 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by nator
08-29-2002 10:33 AM


Got it now.
Miles Davis, good stuff.
I grew up in a family that plays jazz. We jam on holidays, and partys.
My personal favorite is James Taylor.
You know if you listen closley, I think some "secular" musicians write some of their songs to God, they just don't make it so apparent. Some.

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riVeRraT
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Message 94 of 99 (143167)
09-19-2004 1:18 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Cold Foreign Object
04-30-2004 4:22 PM


Such as?

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