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Asgara
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Message 121 of 352 (143499)
09-20-2004 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Lysimachus
09-20-2004 10:00 PM


Lys, Landover Baptist Church is a well known satire site.
Landover Baptist | Where the Worthwhile Worship. Unsaved Unwelcome
Your link to http://objective.jesussave.us/creationnews.html is an obvious offshoot of the first site. The 4Kidz section and the online shopping section are copies of some of the original Landover Baptist pages.
Tell me the truth Lys, would your church sell "Ruby Matrimony" thongs? With the logo reading "Will you be my husband?"
How about your church taking a stance on the number of nails used for the crucifixion? anti-triclavianists?
Believe us...its satire
edited cuz I'm stupid
This message has been edited by Asgara, 09-20-2004 09:30 PM

Asgara
"Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it"
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crashfrog
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Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 122 of 352 (143501)
09-20-2004 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Lysimachus
09-20-2004 10:00 PM


I have not found one article showing that that site is a hoaxy site.
Your credulity is astounding.
The pages about "anti-triclavianism", which oppose the doctrine that Jesus was nailed to the Cross with only 3 nails, didn't raise an alarm? You felt nothing was objectionable about the laughable "game theory proves Christianity" arguments, or that nothing was amiss when a search for "Diamond Jack Holgroth", supposedly a leading figure in mathematical game theory:
quote:
He served our country during the Cold War as a Game Theory Tactician for the Department of Defense and single-handedly developed an elegant solution to the "Fisherman's Quandary", a game theory problem that was crucial to the winning of the arms race and that was famously intractable - until Diamond Jack came along.
returns nothing but links to discussion of this website as a hoax?
You didn't find the fact that the WHOIS search returns "NOC NOC" of "IdeaFlood Inc." as the registrant, instead of someone's real name (like any of the supposed authors of the site), somewhat suspicious?
In short, you didn't apply a bit of rational discernment, did you? You just found something that said something you liked, and dropped it on us as an authority with absolutely no fact-checking on your part, didn't you? In fact, isn't that how you determine who the authorities on a certain subject are? By to what degree their positions match yours?
Use a little discernment, Lys. You'll look a lot less the fool, next time.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1466 days)
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 123 of 352 (143505)
09-20-2004 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Asgara
09-20-2004 10:26 PM


Tell me the truth Lys, would your church sell "Ruby Matrimony" thongs?
Oh, fuck, that's the best - I hadn't even got to that part, yet. Here it is, for interested parties:
Also, I love their American Flag Redux:
(Get it? It's "one nation, under God.")
Lys, are these indications of an earnest, Godly website? Or are these perhaps examples of wiseasses having a laugh at the expense of people who earnestly swallow your brand of horseshit?
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Lysimachus
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Message 124 of 352 (143521)
09-20-2004 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by crashfrog
09-20-2004 10:36 PM


I'm not talking about the site persay, but the article. The same article is elsewhere on the net. Just do a google search. Yes, news sources make faulty advertizings, but there are times when faulty sites make genuine advertizings. It's the data that needs to be analyzed, not the site.
And no need to feel sorry for me folks. I feel sorry that you are incapable of embarking on these discussions more intelligently, as you've all been had that Ron Wyatt is a fraud. Now this I am 100% certain of, as I have the offical governent papers to back up my claims. I'm just waiting for the moment to speil my information.
Your attitude toward what I have will demonstrate who's really "been had".
Spare me, as I've experienced enough of your "opportunist" tactics on me (Charles). The work in helping to unveil the simple facts of creationism is already as inextricable as it gets, so to get you to accept that perhaps giant bones exist is like teaching a chimpanzee trinogometry.

~Lysimachus

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1466 days)
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 125 of 352 (143522)
09-20-2004 11:02 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Lysimachus
09-20-2004 11:00 PM


It's the data that needs to be analyzed, not the site.
So present the data. All you've shown us so far are tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.
I'm just waiting for the moment to speil my information.
Why wait? There's a thread waiting for you, remember?
so to get you to accept that perhaps giant bones exist is like teaching a chimpanzee trinogometry.
Not in the least.
You just have to supply evidence. It really is that simple.

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Asgara
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Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
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Message 126 of 352 (143529)
09-20-2004 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Lysimachus
09-20-2004 11:00 PM


I did several googles on various sections of the text...it only comes up to the original site posted.

Asgara
"Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it"
http://asgarasworld.bravepages.com
http://perditionsgate.bravepages.com

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Coragyps
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Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
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Message 127 of 352 (143530)
09-20-2004 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Lysimachus
09-20-2004 11:00 PM


I am 100% certain of, as I have the offical governent papers to back up my claims. I'm just waiting for the moment to speil my information.
Warn me just ahead of time so that I can secure my location and don my tinfoil beanie.
Where the hell will I find real tin tinfoil in this two-bit town? Can you share some of yours, Lys? I don't want to take a chance on aluminum.

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Amlodhi
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Message 128 of 352 (143532)
09-20-2004 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Lysimachus
09-20-2004 11:00 PM


quote:
Arabian Giant Skeleton Update:
. . . the look of horror on its face is consistent with sudden burial by the Flood combined with realization of one's own wickedness.
Lysimachus, IF a giant skeleton is ever found, you can bet that it won't have a "look" on its face . . .
It is a parody site.
Amlodhi

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CK
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Joined: 07-04-2004


Message 129 of 352 (143559)
09-21-2004 5:06 AM
Reply to: Message 124 by Lysimachus
09-20-2004 11:00 PM


is this even worthy of a answer
quote:
And no need to feel sorry for me folks. I feel sorry that you are incapable of embarking on these discussions more intelligently, as you've all been had that Ron Wyatt is a fraud. Now this I am 100% certain of, as I have the offical governent papers to back up my claims. I'm just waiting for the moment to speil my information.
oh wow - Jam tomorrow! Spare me, we have heard it all before - evidence tomorrow.
quote:
Your attitude toward what I have will demonstrate who's really "been had".
em... You? Quite clearly you? really really clearly YOU?
quote:
Spare me, as I've experienced enough of your "opportunist" tactics on me (Charles).
What? You come on here ranting about how we don't look at the evidence in enough detail to pass judgement while using a clear hoax site to back your case! You may as well be wearing a neon bullseye. It would be rude NOT to take such a clear op to take you down a peg or two.
quote:
The work in helping to unveil the simple facts of creationism is already as inextricable as it gets, so to get you to accept that perhaps giant bones exist is like teaching a chimpanzee trinogometry.
If it's so inextricable - how the hell do you work it out? You've just been taken in by a site selling Jesus Jockstraps! What does this say about your judgement.
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Lysimachus
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Message 130 of 352 (143612)
09-21-2004 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by CK
09-21-2004 5:06 AM


Re: is this even worthy of a answer
Don't worry Charles Knight, I'm not taken in by them 100% by them as you think. I'm simply more willing to give them a benefit of the doubt as long as their is no 100% accurate proof against it.
There are a lot of uncovered things in this world...things that will one day be revealed. There are also a lot of "good" things that the world likes to cover. Secret things are held everywhere and are not released to the public ear (especially in its accuracy and entirety), so therefore, not only should we be skeptical against a claim, but we should also be skeptical against the claims against it.
I trust you respect and are willing to understand my style of approach.
quote:
em... You? Quite clearly you? really really clearly YOU?
I'm willing to admit that I might have been had, had I accepted the claim 100%. But this is not the case. As for the claim itself, like I said, I'm willing to give it a benefit of the doubt, but as for trusting the site itself...now that's a different story.
Anything other than Ron Wyatt's discoveries...there is a high percentage that I could "be had". But regarding Ron's discoveries themselves, I guarantee you 100% that I haven't, as I have been exposed full force to the truths and lies spread to the world regarding them, and am right in the lime light of information. I have personal connections with not only several witnesses, but also contributers and workers themselves involved with W.A.R. Just be patient, and I will take the time to thoroughly provide and document much uncovered information to the public online. Even your questions regarding the Ark of the Covenant and the blood *now that is a touchy subject, and very hard for people to swallow, but once closely investigated, one will realize that the idea is a far cry from being a scam*
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~Lysimachus

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CK
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Joined: 07-04-2004


Message 131 of 352 (143618)
09-21-2004 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by Lysimachus
09-21-2004 10:48 AM


Re: is this even worthy of a answer
quote:
I have personal connections with not only several witnesses, but also contributers and workers themselves involved with W.A.R. Just be patient, and I will take the time to thoroughly provide and document much uncovered information to the public online. Even your questions regarding the Ark of the Covenant and the blood *now that is a touchy subject, and very hard for people to swallow, but once closely investigated, one will realize that the idea is a far cry from being a scam*
Oh look the usual "sometime in the future". Ron Wyatt was a total fraud and a headcase.
Ron was a BULLSHITTER and a FRAUD.
Funny how you missed our close investigation of the blood of jesus where we totally debunked it. If you have some evidence about the blood of jesus - let's see it - start a thread.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP time.
From previous experience - we will not have either total nothingness or a long rant about an totally unconnected subject.

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Lysimachus
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Message 132 of 352 (143622)
09-21-2004 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by CK
09-21-2004 10:56 AM


Re: is this even worthy of a answer
You honestly think I haven't read it? Wow, look is calling the kettle black when it comes to making up stuff.
The truth is, all of your so called "debunking" is all but foolishness, and a far cry from the real truth. You have no clue whatsoever what was involved with the blood.
Ron Wyatt was NOT a FRAUD, PERIOD. No matter how many times you repeat it, it isn't going to change the facts Charles. You're deceived and blinder than a bat. You've been had, and you don't want to see it. These are the most extraordinary discoveries of all time. Surveys conducted show a global acceptance and positive response to these discoveries...
Critics will NEVER be able to prove them a fraud...instead, as time progresses, the critics will continue to find themselves deeper in the hole.
I also am notorious for dealing with one subject at a time. Step 1. Next, Step 2. Next, Step 3. Obviously, you are unreasonable enough that I should deal with all three steps simulaneously? No my friend, my next project is smack straight at Noah's Ark. I'll come to the Ark of the Covenant and create a thread regarding that in due season.
Be reasonable, and quit fuming. It's only fogging your mind. Perhaps you need defogging fluid? I have plenty of it.

~Lysimachus

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CK
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Message 133 of 352 (143625)
09-21-2004 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 132 by Lysimachus
09-21-2004 11:02 AM


Re: is this even worthy of a answer
L - we have heard it all before, your only answer is ALWAYS "tomorrow", "soon", "coming shortly".
You have nothing and you are nothing.

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AdminNosy
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Message 134 of 352 (143626)
09-21-2004 11:10 AM
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09-21-2004 11:08 AM


Not needed.
...and you are nothing.
It isn't necessary to add that. Your arguement is not strenthened by it.

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CK
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Message 135 of 352 (143627)
09-21-2004 11:11 AM
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09-21-2004 11:10 AM


Re: Not needed.
You are totally 100% right - I allowed my frustration to overcome my good sense.

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